Comments on: PM Debate PostMortem dead blogging http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/ News, Insights, and Humour Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:14:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: themusicgod1 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/comment-page-1/#comment-270780 themusicgod1 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:50:56 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/?p=2683#comment-270780 FYI I think Don Mitchell is campaigning on proportional representation as one of his 3 or so main issues. Can't say the same for stephen moore, but it's still apparently at least somewhat of an NDP priority. FYI I think Don Mitchell is campaigning on proportional representation as one of his 3 or so main issues. Can’t say the same for stephen moore, but it’s still apparently at least somewhat of an NDP priority.

]]> By: Saskboy http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/comment-page-1/#comment-268982 Saskboy Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:11:34 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/?p=2683#comment-268982 I don't think I or the party has a strong opinion on the type of PR, just so long as the system stops completely shutting out alternative voices, and electing false majorities. I don’t think I or the party has a strong opinion on the type of PR, just so long as the system stops completely shutting out alternative voices, and electing false majorities.

]]> By: themusicgod1 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/comment-page-1/#comment-267896 themusicgod1 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:00:54 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/?p=2683#comment-267896 Well, what exactly would you like insofar as proportional representation, and how do the greens compare to this? I remember at beer with weir back in what, '04 I asked him about it -- the NDP were pushing for it back then -- but it seemed so .. perhipheral to me at the time. Even as a supporter of a small party(the Action party). it seemed like a long term thing at best, and at worst in the short term it could very well mean a fundamental change away from the unacountable-but-usually-responsible-senate system that Canada has done at least okay with Well, what exactly would you like insofar as proportional representation, and how do the greens compare to this? I remember at beer with weir back in what, ‘04 I asked him about it — the NDP were pushing for it back then — but it seemed so .. perhipheral to me at the time. Even as a supporter of a small party(the Action party). it seemed like a long term thing at best, and at worst in the short term it could very well mean a fundamental change away from the unacountable-but-usually-responsible-senate system that Canada has done at least okay with

]]> By: Saskboy http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/comment-page-1/#comment-265935 Saskboy Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:14:32 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/?p=2683#comment-265935 I think Layton's record on democratic reform is one reason not to vote for him. I'm going to investigate Democratic Space's prediction again for Wascana. Last I looked, they didn't think it was close enough for Ralph to lose. We could probably each vote for the leader/candidate we like best. I spoke with George Wooldridge, with an interview going up on my blog too in video form for you to see, and he seems like a good guy and is even our age. I think Layton’s record on democratic reform is one reason not to vote for him.
I’m going to investigate Democratic Space’s prediction again for Wascana. Last I looked, they didn’t think it was close enough for Ralph to lose. We could probably each vote for the leader/candidate we like best. I spoke with George Wooldridge, with an interview going up on my blog too in video form for you to see, and he seems like a good guy and is even our age.

]]> By: themusicgod1 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/comment-page-1/#comment-265658 themusicgod1 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:48:01 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/?p=2683#comment-265658 I don't call everywhere in Saskatchewan, but I do call around 15 ridings, some not really easy to suspect as NDP carriable ridings; Jack Layton is right; he could be elected Prime Minister in today's climate---but ONLY if the "undecideds" and the "I haven't been following politics, but I'll vote" crowd vote for him. There are a *lot* of them. Probably about as many people who voted harper in last election, easy. Add existing NDP supporters to this and you may very well have a Layton PM. However, that's only if Canadians decide, for whatever reason, on election day, that Layton is the leader which he claims he will be. Don't believe the polls in the paper/polling companies. They have the same biases that I have, as telephone research, but have a profit motive which blinds them to select bits of information, and chances are if you're hearing about it, it's only when the conservatives/liberals/money masters/whatever are doing good. However may nothing in this post be a recommendation to vote for the NDP. I do think me & saskboy should be voting NDP, but only because I haven't seen any reason for us to not do so. I don’t call everywhere in Saskatchewan, but I do call around 15 ridings, some not really easy to suspect as NDP carriable ridings; Jack Layton is right; he could be elected Prime Minister in today’s climate—but ONLY if the “undecideds” and the “I haven’t been following politics, but I’ll vote” crowd vote for him. There are a *lot* of them. Probably about as many people who voted harper in last election, easy. Add existing NDP supporters to this and you may very well have a Layton PM. However, that’s only if Canadians decide, for whatever reason, on election day, that Layton is the leader which he claims he will be.

Don’t believe the polls in the paper/polling companies. They have the same biases that I have, as telephone research, but have a profit motive which blinds them to select bits of information, and chances are if you’re hearing about it, it’s only when the conservatives/liberals/money masters/whatever are doing good.

However may nothing in this post be a recommendation to vote for the NDP. I do think me & saskboy should be voting NDP, but only because I haven’t seen any reason for us to not do so.

]]> By: themusicgod1 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/10/02/pmpm/comment-page-1/#comment-265646 themusicgod1 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:38:37 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/?p=2683#comment-265646 <a href="http://themusicgod1.livejournal.com/101715.html" rel="nofollow">My postmortem</a>. My postmortem.

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