People concerned about the Conservatives’ law to outlaw DVDs on iPods, BluRay backups, and the downloading of MP3s can finally do something concrete this Autumn to stop Harper and the CRIA from letting big business sue you for fair use of the media you purchase. You can elect MPs that are for fair copyright for Canadians. So far, that would mean electing NDP, or Green MPs. Bloc MPs are not so clear on where they stand, with Duceppe making it clear that he’s not really on the side of Canadians (but then, when is he?). Although the Liberals had said they did not support Bill C-61 in its current form, they were the party that brought forward the last proposed DMCA for Canada, and whose minister was thus defeated for doing so.
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It’s interesting to see the American media’s take on Canadian politics. All the little details are wrong like “liberals” for “Liberals”, and the parroting of the Harper campaign to frame Dion as a “weak leader”.
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Louise | 07-Sep-08 at 6:29 pm | Permalink
All the little details are wrong like “liberals” for “Liberals”, and the parroting of the Harper campaign to frame Dion as a “weak leader”.
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Hmmmm. I don’t see any instance in that article where the word liberal is used to refer specifically to the Liberal Party? Where did you see that?
And “parroting” the Harper campaign may not be to your liking, but that doesn’t make for “little details” that are “wrong”. In fact, I would think you’ve be hard pressed to find anyone who really, really thinks the Liberals are in a strong position right now. All the polls indicate otherwise.
Of course, there is a statement on the webpage but not in the article that uses both the word
liberal” (small L) and the word “conservative” (small C), but you are aware, I presume, that in American parlance, the word “liberal” is used in the same sense that we Canadians often use the word “socialist”. In other words, it is used in the broader sense, rather than as a reference to a particular political party.
Saskboy | 07-Sep-08 at 7:08 pm | Permalink
“the word liberal is used to refer specifically to the Liberal Party? Where did you see that?”
At the very top, you found it.
“Liberal leader Stephane Dion said the election offers a stark choice between his party and the “most conservative government in our history.”"
His party is not the “liberals”.
Do you really want to dicker about the details being bang on, for an opinion? You wouldn’t find a reputable Canadian media outlet categorizing Dion as a “weak leader” in non-opinion piece.
Louise | 07-Sep-08 at 7:23 pm | Permalink
You’re just reading it a different way than I am. It’s not 100% clear that it’s referring to the Liberal Party. All of the parties, other than the Cons, are “liberal” in the American sense. And besides, the sentence you quote, which is from the center of the article, not outside the article in the top lefthand corner, contradicts your assertion.
And yes, polls are opinions, but so are votes.
Saskboy | 07-Sep-08 at 7:28 pm | Permalink
And we won’t know until October how the votes will go, so we’ll have to leave that issue until then at least.
I thought the quote supports my view that the “liberal” in the top was to refer to the Liberal party, but I see what you mean about it possibly meaning liberal Liberal party. Either way, a Canadian media outlet would not say liberal Liberals, and that was my point - it’s different how they talk about our politics.
Louise | 07-Sep-08 at 7:36 pm | Permalink
A non-reputable Canadian media outlet which doesn’t quite say outright that the Liberals are weak, but nonetheless confirms that they are - Canadians set to vote Conservative: Poll
Saskboy | 07-Sep-08 at 7:43 pm | Permalink
Louise, saying the Liberals are weak in the polls is not wrong. Saying Dion is a “weak leader” is clearly Conservative spin, paid for by their massive campaign started post-Dion leadership election.
Louise | 08-Sep-08 at 5:50 am | Permalink
Paid for? Really? Where do I get my cheque?
Oh, and my answer to this “Do you really want to dicker about the details being bang on, for an opinion?” is, you started it.
“All the little details are wrong like “liberals” for “Liberals””
Saskboy | 08-Sep-08 at 8:00 am | Permalink
“Where do I get my cheque?”
I don’t doubt the Conservatives have paid-for bloggers too. Sorry you aren’t one, you’d do a great job.
“Oh, and my answer to this “Do you really want to dicker about the details being bang on, for an opinion?” is, you started it. ”
Obviously I do, that’s why I wrote what I did about the details being off. And your answer to them being off/wrong is that they are, just not how I said?
Louise | 08-Sep-08 at 8:13 am | Permalink
Sorry you aren’t one, you’d do a great job.
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Thanks. I think I’d do a good job, too. I’d even do it for free.
I must confess, though, that I’m still trying to figure out the meaning of that mangled sentence at the end of your most recent reply. Care to make it a bit clearer?