Comments on: Conservative Party Enhanced Transparency

By: Saskboy

Saskboy — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:36:26 +0000

“Nobody can make an argument longer than 5 syllables because by the time they get to the sixth, some blogger or hack has condemned them for the way they said it, or it’s insensitivity, or whatever… This is a far greater problem than the out of date form letters on the Tory home page.”

Robert, I think most bloggers get their material from scripts though, and if they don’t, they are talking with people who do. We may march to our own beats, but a simple surf around the partisan ‘rolls will show what I say is true. It’s almost half “Goracle is a liar” or “Bush ate my baby”.

Candace,
It’s not ‘THE’ problem, but it’s as Robert says a step in boring the partially disinterested to the point of giving up any attempt at debate or discussion. I admit it’s hard to talk to someone in a way that makes it a conversation instead of a debate where one side is wrong when they both have points in favour.

By: Candace

Candace — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:56:11 +0000

I guess you haven’t been following the primaries. Obama’s site is all over this sort of thing, and frankly, I’m okay with that (and of course the CPC doing that).

To say that this sort of thing (and talk radio) are what’s the problem with democracy is crap. Most people I work with don’t listen to talk radio, neither do I.

Wake up and smell the coffee, SB.

By: RobertJago

RobertJago — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:24:31 +0000

“but also others who get their kool-aid and unoriginality from different pitchers”

I didn’t read that as including Liberals specifically - it’s broad and can include many of the civil society groups like the pro-lifers, pro-choicers et al. But if you meant it to include Liberals - then ‘my bad’. Only partially though , because I still don’t see the scandal in it. I don’t think it discourages participation or increase cynicism.

What increases cynicism are people like us, jumping on things like this. Missing the point and leaping on any stray set of details within it, that discourages serious politics, that’s why everything is so scripted now.

Nobody can make an argument longer than 5 syllables because by the time they get to the sixth, some blogger or hack has condemned them for the way they said it, or it’s insensitivity, or whatever… This is a far greater problem than the out of date form letters on the Tory home page.

By: Platty

Platty — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:22:58 +0000

My bad, I hadn’t noticed that you have included the Liberals in your post. My aplologies.

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By: Platty

Platty — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:20:29 +0000

Yeah, and you know that the Liberals would never do anything like this, right?

Or would they?

Check out this and then you tell me.

By: foottothefire

foottothefire — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:52:19 +0000

Thing to remember is it’s advertising and like the man said, “say whatever you want about me, JUST MENTION MY NAME EVERY TIME!”
Liberals have to take the massage out the Harper message by starting with the likes of…Harper isn’t a Conservative; doesn’t think like one, doesn’t create policy like one (doesn’t create policy at all, from all the appearances and so far, anyway) and, who can trust a man who doesn’t trust anybody else, let alone his own party members speaking for themselves? As for his academic specialty, Economics, who in their right mind would have concocted the ‘trust fund’ penalty let alone miss the initial target altogether.

By: Saskboy

Saskboy — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:58:21 +0000

Robert, I said other parties do it too. The Liberals in the report who chastise the Conservatives for doing this are a hypocritical hoot. If they consider this an insult, then perhaps they’d best avoid it by not putting their supporters’ brains into boxes, instead of having you appeal to my sense of political sportsmanship.

A major contributor to political apathy is this kind of radio scripted politics. It’s no wonder people think they’ve heard the same show over and over…

By: RobertJago

RobertJago — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:12:37 +0000

Have you never volunteered for a political action group?

They all have scripts and talking points. It’s not some third world thing - it’s an extension of the practices of such wicked groups as the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.

Yeah insulting your opponents is fun, isn’t it? But this is such thin gruel. You’re better than that.