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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/03/02/a-political-scandal-so-big/comment-page-1/#comment-106443</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a polititian, refuses to answer direct questions, and refuses to  be forthcoming, and cooperate, it's obvious they have something to hide. This is not rocket science folks. Plain and simple, the man is a LIAR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a polititian, refuses to answer direct questions, and refuses to  be forthcoming, and cooperate, it&#8217;s obvious they have something to hide. This is not rocket science folks. Plain and simple, the man is a LIAR!</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/03/02/a-political-scandal-so-big/comment-page-1/#comment-105916</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flanagan lecture is now fully booked. I decided not to talk to him, since it would likely be a waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flanagan lecture is now fully booked. I decided not to talk to him, since it would likely be a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/03/02/a-political-scandal-so-big/comment-page-1/#comment-104882</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's my analysis to this point too Cyberwanderer. It's not clear what Harper knew was being negotiated with, but that's why the RCMP have to come in at this point to determine if the admission on tape as it sounds deserves prosecution of a crime.

EDIT: Oh wait, going to this part of the tape, it appears Harper is screwed, "The offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election."

I don't see that meaning anything other than they were going to offer Chuck something for his vote, that would impact his finances. Reasoning does not impact finances. Either our politicians can offer each other money for votes, or they can't, the country has to decide!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s my analysis to this point too Cyberwanderer. It&#8217;s not clear what Harper knew was being negotiated with, but that&#8217;s why the RCMP have to come in at this point to determine if the admission on tape as it sounds deserves prosecution of a crime.</p>
<p>EDIT: Oh wait, going to this part of the tape, it appears Harper is screwed, &#8220;The offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that meaning anything other than they were going to offer Chuck something for his vote, that would impact his finances. Reasoning does not impact finances. Either our politicians can offer each other money for votes, or they can&#8217;t, the country has to decide!</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberwanderer</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/03/02/a-political-scandal-so-big/comment-page-1/#comment-104868</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberwanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope RCMP will not be afraid of initiating an investigation. They were fast to investigate Paul Martin's government with the urging of opposition then. This time there's actual incriminating tape that clearly shows Harper talking about financial offer to an MP in their effort to defeat Martin's government. 

Candace, Dona did not realize it would be such an issue. Even up to today  she is still surprised by how much attention the incident is getting. Even Chuck when interviewed about "vote buying" laugh and said people have to interpret it the way they like and that there certainly was offer made but he thought it's just normal for a minority situation. Chuck quote about denying there was an offer is in answer to question about his meeting with Martin and Harper, not about the 2 conservative men who met with him. They probably were not sure at that time whether Harper knew. That led Dona to ask Harper if he knew and Harper said no. But Harper's audio tape confirms he knew.

It would really be scary if they let this pass because it will accepting that bribery is ok Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope RCMP will not be afraid of initiating an investigation. They were fast to investigate Paul Martin&#8217;s government with the urging of opposition then. This time there&#8217;s actual incriminating tape that clearly shows Harper talking about financial offer to an MP in their effort to defeat Martin&#8217;s government. </p>
<p>Candace, Dona did not realize it would be such an issue. Even up to today  she is still surprised by how much attention the incident is getting. Even Chuck when interviewed about &#8220;vote buying&#8221; laugh and said people have to interpret it the way they like and that there certainly was offer made but he thought it&#8217;s just normal for a minority situation. Chuck quote about denying there was an offer is in answer to question about his meeting with Martin and Harper, not about the 2 conservative men who met with him. They probably were not sure at that time whether Harper knew. That led Dona to ask Harper if he knew and Harper said no. But Harper&#8217;s audio tape confirms he knew.</p>
<p>It would really be scary if they let this pass because it will accepting that bribery is ok Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/03/02/a-political-scandal-so-big/comment-page-1/#comment-104688</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's in the middle of the day TMG1, I'd have to book time off work. Want to field the questions for me there? ;-)

Candace, it's the author that brought this to light, that's why it's happening now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in the middle of the day TMG1, I&#8217;d have to book time off work. Want to field the questions for me there? ;-)</p>
<p>Candace, it&#8217;s the author that brought this to light, that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s happening now.</p>
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		<title>By: themusicgod1</title>
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		<dc:creator>themusicgod1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That being said, I don't get it.  Aren't the conservatives supposed to be crooked? Are we supposed to think better of them, than this?   I just don't get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That being said, I don&#8217;t get it.  Aren&#8217;t the conservatives supposed to be crooked? Are we supposed to think better of them, than this?   I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: themusicgod1</title>
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		<dc:creator>themusicgod1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23rd, eh?  Drop by the closet.  I'll come with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23rd, eh?  Drop by the closet.  I&#8217;ll come with.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having a hard time believing this happened the way it is currently being presented.  Why?  Because right around Chuck's passing, and shortly afterward when Harper et al did the big crime announcement (I think about street racing) in BC, Ms. Cadman made it abundantly clear that she didn't have much nice to say about the CPoC.  Feeling as she did at the time, why would she not have gone public then? (Apparently, she's had a change of heart, on both the CPoC and "the event.")

Also, apparently there is video of Chuck saying it never happened.

And we also have BELINDA for God's sake! Can you link me to a post where you were outraged about that? Because that DID HAPPEN, whereas Chuck DID NOT vote down the gov't, whether because he was doing as his constituents asked or was dying and didn't have the energy for an election, or any number of combinations/permutations/etc of the whys and wherefores.

And don't forget that Chuck HAD BEEN a party member - trying to get someone back into the party strikes me as something normal.  Unless some real live documentation is delivered, I'm calling this a great way to sell a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having a hard time believing this happened the way it is currently being presented.  Why?  Because right around Chuck&#8217;s passing, and shortly afterward when Harper et al did the big crime announcement (I think about street racing) in BC, Ms. Cadman made it abundantly clear that she didn&#8217;t have much nice to say about the CPoC.  Feeling as she did at the time, why would she not have gone public then? (Apparently, she&#8217;s had a change of heart, on both the CPoC and &#8220;the event.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Also, apparently there is video of Chuck saying it never happened.</p>
<p>And we also have BELINDA for God&#8217;s sake! Can you link me to a post where you were outraged about that? Because that DID HAPPEN, whereas Chuck DID NOT vote down the gov&#8217;t, whether because he was doing as his constituents asked or was dying and didn&#8217;t have the energy for an election, or any number of combinations/permutations/etc of the whys and wherefores.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget that Chuck HAD BEEN a party member - trying to get someone back into the party strikes me as something normal.  Unless some real live documentation is delivered, I&#8217;m calling this a great way to sell a book.</p>
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