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		<title>By: Patrick Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/02/12/dear-blogosphere-you-suck-sincerely-us/comment-page-2/#comment-98759</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"&lt;i&gt;Patrick, you wouldn’t know courage if it bit you on your hypocritical ass. If anyone behaves like a “bully”, it’s you and your empty threats. People, including myself, blog anonymously for a million different reasons and, last time I checked, no one had declared you the Interent police. Although I’m sure it would appeal to your thug mentality.

Grow up and move on, your incessant whining is tiresome.&lt;/i&gt;"

Well, Lulu, &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; of us has the guts to attach their name to their comments. One of us doesn't -- and writes a blog with the sole purpose of attacking people.

So tell me &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt; about courage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Patrick, you wouldn’t know courage if it bit you on your hypocritical ass. If anyone behaves like a “bully”, it’s you and your empty threats. People, including myself, blog anonymously for a million different reasons and, last time I checked, no one had declared you the Interent police. Although I’m sure it would appeal to your thug mentality.</p>
<p>Grow up and move on, your incessant whining is tiresome.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Lulu, <i>one</i> of us has the guts to attach their name to their comments. One of us doesn&#8217;t &#8212; and writes a blog with the sole purpose of attacking people.</p>
<p>So tell me <i>again</i> about courage.</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/02/12/dear-blogosphere-you-suck-sincerely-us/comment-page-2/#comment-98338</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The point is, it’s spectacle, and certain types of denigration work over the long term."

Even if everyone involved understands that it's "spectacle", and not 100% serious, it's still corrosive to open communication if spectacular insults are commonplace instead of the notable exceptions. For the most part I think the blogosphere is less spectacular than the notable exceptions I originally mentioned.

As a frequent target of denigration throughout my life, I can attest to the fact that it does not "work over the long term". And if it has in any way, that's certainly nothing for the perpetrators to be proud of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The point is, it’s spectacle, and certain types of denigration work over the long term.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even if everyone involved understands that it&#8217;s &#8220;spectacle&#8221;, and not 100% serious, it&#8217;s still corrosive to open communication if spectacular insults are commonplace instead of the notable exceptions. For the most part I think the blogosphere is less spectacular than the notable exceptions I originally mentioned.</p>
<p>As a frequent target of denigration throughout my life, I can attest to the fact that it does not &#8220;work over the long term&#8221;. And if it has in any way, that&#8217;s certainly nothing for the perpetrators to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: Bell Northern Research</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/02/12/dear-blogosphere-you-suck-sincerely-us/comment-page-2/#comment-98320</link>
		<dc:creator>Bell Northern Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It can be emotionally satisfying to club an idiot over the head with facts. But if you want lasting results that win hearts and minds, respect is the only way to go (unfortunately). Otherwise the eventual conclusion to using only insults, is war."

You're making the assumption that we should care about what the idiots think.  The point is, it's spectacle, and certain types of denigration work over the long term.

"This attitude is at the base of the disrespect on the internet, though: the idea that, if only your opponent had more information, he’d automatically come over to your point of view."

Pff, this I seriously doubt: who cares whether your opponent comes over to your point of view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It can be emotionally satisfying to club an idiot over the head with facts. But if you want lasting results that win hearts and minds, respect is the only way to go (unfortunately). Otherwise the eventual conclusion to using only insults, is war.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making the assumption that we should care about what the idiots think.  The point is, it&#8217;s spectacle, and certain types of denigration work over the long term.</p>
<p>&#8220;This attitude is at the base of the disrespect on the internet, though: the idea that, if only your opponent had more information, he’d automatically come over to your point of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pff, this I seriously doubt: who cares whether your opponent comes over to your point of view?</p>
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		<title>By: liberalcatnip</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/02/12/dear-blogosphere-you-suck-sincerely-us/comment-page-2/#comment-98205</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalcatnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Incidentally, anonymity gives CC no special power, it gives him a handicap. It means he has to always fear that some loose cannon will reveal his secret.&lt;/i&gt;

Blogging anonymously doesn't necessarily mean that you live in fear of being outed all of the time. There were only 2 times in my anonymous blogging career that I was afraid of people blowing my anonymity: one was when I was the target of a death threat, the other was when I was the target of a crazy blogger woman with a grudge who had come up with the crazy idea that I was some sort of threat to her. (She was a loon and a half). 

Like Lulu said, people have lots of reasons for blogging anonymously. Personal protection (from physical threats) is a big one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Incidentally, anonymity gives CC no special power, it gives him a handicap. It means he has to always fear that some loose cannon will reveal his secret.</i></p>
<p>Blogging anonymously doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that you live in fear of being outed all of the time. There were only 2 times in my anonymous blogging career that I was afraid of people blowing my anonymity: one was when I was the target of a death threat, the other was when I was the target of a crazy blogger woman with a grudge who had come up with the crazy idea that I was some sort of threat to her. (She was a loon and a half). </p>
<p>Like Lulu said, people have lots of reasons for blogging anonymously. Personal protection (from physical threats) is a big one.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalcatnip</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalcatnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blog's calm these days. I'm just sayin'...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog&#8217;s calm these days. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LuLu</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/02/12/dear-blogosphere-you-suck-sincerely-us/comment-page-2/#comment-98020</link>
		<dc:creator>LuLu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, you wouldn't know courage if it bit you on your hypocritical ass.  If anyone behaves like a "bully", it's you and your empty threats.  People, including myself, blog anonymously for a million different reasons and, last time I checked, no one had declared you the Interent police.  Although I'm sure it would appeal to your thug mentality.  

Grow up and move on, your incessant whining is tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, you wouldn&#8217;t know courage if it bit you on your hypocritical ass.  If anyone behaves like a &#8220;bully&#8221;, it&#8217;s you and your empty threats.  People, including myself, blog anonymously for a million different reasons and, last time I checked, no one had declared you the Interent police.  Although I&#8217;m sure it would appeal to your thug mentality.  </p>
<p>Grow up and move on, your incessant whining is tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian H.</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2008/02/12/dear-blogosphere-you-suck-sincerely-us/comment-page-2/#comment-98015</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You could call people like that idiots (justifiably), but human nature will cause those people to clam up and defend their [incorrect] view when you break out the insults. If you approach someone with information and the right approach so they’ll listen to you as someone they respect, they can reconcile their views with the new information they trust.&lt;/i&gt;

This attitude is at the base of the disrespect on the internet, though: the idea that, if only your opponent had more information, he'd automatically come over to your point of view.  Patently, that's false.  Intelligent people disagree all the time on every kind of subject, and assuming your debating counterpart is simply ignorant is the beginning of the spiral downwards.  More information does not equate with congruence of viewpoint, and seeing it that way only legitimizes the kind of partisan sniping that all too often characterizes political debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You could call people like that idiots (justifiably), but human nature will cause those people to clam up and defend their [incorrect] view when you break out the insults. If you approach someone with information and the right approach so they’ll listen to you as someone they respect, they can reconcile their views with the new information they trust.</i></p>
<p>This attitude is at the base of the disrespect on the internet, though: the idea that, if only your opponent had more information, he&#8217;d automatically come over to your point of view.  Patently, that&#8217;s false.  Intelligent people disagree all the time on every kind of subject, and assuming your debating counterpart is simply ignorant is the beginning of the spiral downwards.  More information does not equate with congruence of viewpoint, and seeing it that way only legitimizes the kind of partisan sniping that all too often characterizes political debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, it's not courage. As I already explained, it's vindictive, selfish, and immature. It's the kind of misdeed that can be done from a position of anonymity itself, and holds no noble purpose. Incidentally, anonymity gives CC no special power, it gives him a handicap. It means he has to always fear that some loose cannon will reveal his secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, it&#8217;s not courage. As I already explained, it&#8217;s vindictive, selfish, and immature. It&#8217;s the kind of misdeed that can be done from a position of anonymity itself, and holds no noble purpose. Incidentally, anonymity gives CC no special power, it gives him a handicap. It means he has to always fear that some loose cannon will reveal his secret.</p>
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