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	<title>Comments on: Investment seems straightforward - But not to Baird</title>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/06/27/investment-seems-straightforward-but-not-to-baird/#comment-30882</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CL, we'd still have a problem, but it would be only about 60% as bad.

David, I think higher priced gas is fine, but the problem is that the fuel consuming devices being made, are not using the fuel in the efficient way they could be. It would cost a lot less to make an engine like they did in the 1960s, but no one wants something that ineffient or with the other drawbacks it came with. People are already demanding better mileage and engines, but the vehicle makers are not coming through with many mass produced models to make the pricing competitive with the more wasteful standard engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CL, we&#8217;d still have a problem, but it would be only about 60% as bad.</p>
<p>David, I think higher priced gas is fine, but the problem is that the fuel consuming devices being made, are not using the fuel in the efficient way they could be. It would cost a lot less to make an engine like they did in the 1960s, but no one wants something that ineffient or with the other drawbacks it came with. People are already demanding better mileage and engines, but the vehicle makers are not coming through with many mass produced models to make the pricing competitive with the more wasteful standard engines.</p>
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		<title>By: Closet Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/06/27/investment-seems-straightforward-but-not-to-baird/#comment-30846</link>
		<dc:creator>Closet Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That being said, yeah, we can't ignore the environmental cost impact.  So I agree with the basis behind your argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That being said, yeah, we can&#8217;t ignore the environmental cost impact.  So I agree with the basis behind your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Closet Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/06/27/investment-seems-straightforward-but-not-to-baird/#comment-30845</link>
		<dc:creator>Closet Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backing up David: the other flaw with the computer tech analogy is that most computer processors sit at 99% idle for 99% of the time.   Also dual-cores don't make applications run faster than single cores as most applications are not multi-core aware.  

I agree we need to target consumption costs rather than vehicle costs.  Its not the average fuel economy (which has been continuously improving over the years) that's killing us, it's the number of vehicles on the road and how far we drive them.  If everyone drove a hybrid, we would still have a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backing up David: the other flaw with the computer tech analogy is that most computer processors sit at 99% idle for 99% of the time.   Also dual-cores don&#8217;t make applications run faster than single cores as most applications are not multi-core aware.  </p>
<p>I agree we need to target consumption costs rather than vehicle costs.  Its not the average fuel economy (which has been continuously improving over the years) that&#8217;s killing us, it&#8217;s the number of vehicles on the road and how far we drive them.  If everyone drove a hybrid, we would still have a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackintosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your use of improvement in the areas of computer technology as an analogy is flawed.  The reason why computer companies do not sell 486-based systems is because the cost of making them now exceeds the value that a consumer would be willing to pay.  That is, even if a 486 could be built for less money than the current crop of CPUs, the several-order-of-magnitude increase in performance available for a microscopic increase in price makes the 486 a very poor value proposition.

That said, the only way we are going to discourage inefficient energy consumption is by making the cost of the energy high enough to limit people's ability to consume it.  Sticking even an extra $5000 on the cost of a SUV is not going to slow the sales of the vehicles; however, increasing the cost of the gas needed to move it around to $3 per liter will kill the consumer SUV market dead.  Most greenies don't like this idea, they seem to think that they shouldn't bear costs proportionate to their consumption, as if the emissions coming from the back of their Toyota Prius' is somehow less damaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your use of improvement in the areas of computer technology as an analogy is flawed.  The reason why computer companies do not sell 486-based systems is because the cost of making them now exceeds the value that a consumer would be willing to pay.  That is, even if a 486 could be built for less money than the current crop of CPUs, the several-order-of-magnitude increase in performance available for a microscopic increase in price makes the 486 a very poor value proposition.</p>
<p>That said, the only way we are going to discourage inefficient energy consumption is by making the cost of the energy high enough to limit people&#8217;s ability to consume it.  Sticking even an extra $5000 on the cost of a SUV is not going to slow the sales of the vehicles; however, increasing the cost of the gas needed to move it around to $3 per liter will kill the consumer SUV market dead.  Most greenies don&#8217;t like this idea, they seem to think that they shouldn&#8217;t bear costs proportionate to their consumption, as if the emissions coming from the back of their Toyota Prius&#8217; is somehow less damaging.</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/06/27/investment-seems-straightforward-but-not-to-baird/#comment-30823</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, please explain your sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, please explain your sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty funny stuff...for a 6 year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty funny stuff&#8230;for a 6 year old.</p>
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