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	<title>Comments on: Layton&#8217;s NDP lost</title>
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		<title>By: blogging a dead horse</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/04/24/laytons-ndp-lost/#comment-23842</link>
		<dc:creator>blogging a dead horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out military analyist Steve Staples blog.  He had an interesting seat in all this.

It turns out that he and others acted as go-betweens between the Liberals and NDP to craft a better motion, but the Liberals wouldn't play ball. They were more interested in politics than having their motion pass. Staples writes: 

"The Liberal motion was uncritical of the military mission and supported its continuance unchanged . . . We urged the Liberals to make a small amendment to their motion in order to win NDP support, and Former UN Ambassador for Disarmament Peggy Mason actually suggested specific changes to the language that would likely have been palatable to both Liberals and the NDP. We sent the suggestions to every Liberal and NDP Member of Parliament. The NDP even proposed an amendment during the debate, but the Liberals rejected it."

http://ceasefireinsider.wordpress.com/2007/04/25/what-was-stephane-dion-thinking/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out military analyist Steve Staples blog.  He had an interesting seat in all this.</p>
<p>It turns out that he and others acted as go-betweens between the Liberals and NDP to craft a better motion, but the Liberals wouldn&#8217;t play ball. They were more interested in politics than having their motion pass. Staples writes: </p>
<p>&#8220;The Liberal motion was uncritical of the military mission and supported its continuance unchanged . . . We urged the Liberals to make a small amendment to their motion in order to win NDP support, and Former UN Ambassador for Disarmament Peggy Mason actually suggested specific changes to the language that would likely have been palatable to both Liberals and the NDP. We sent the suggestions to every Liberal and NDP Member of Parliament. The NDP even proposed an amendment during the debate, but the Liberals rejected it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: canuckistanian</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/04/24/laytons-ndp-lost/#comment-23836</link>
		<dc:creator>canuckistanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i think we can stop speculating about the "backroom deal" between the ndp and the conservatives...or we can just assume the ndp have lost there frickin' minds!  either way, not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i think we can stop speculating about the &#8220;backroom deal&#8221; between the ndp and the conservatives&#8230;or we can just assume the ndp have lost there frickin&#8217; minds!  either way, not good.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Johnstone</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/04/24/laytons-ndp-lost/#comment-23810</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Johnstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does that mean the libs are for the continued tortore, killing and so on of Afghanistan detainees until 2009 in the South? And of course, after that when you want them moved to 2010 to somewhere else in Afghanistan? Just wondering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does that mean the libs are for the continued tortore, killing and so on of Afghanistan detainees until 2009 in the South? And of course, after that when you want them moved to 2010 to somewhere else in Afghanistan? Just wondering?</p>
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		<title>By: Werner Patels</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/04/24/laytons-ndp-lost/#comment-23791</link>
		<dc:creator>Werner Patels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Layton did the right thing -- it was a principled move, and his stock has gone up YET AGAIN! He's the best leader we have in the House right now (in fact, he is the best and most professional leader of any political party in Canada right now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Layton did the right thing &#8212; it was a principled move, and his stock has gone up YET AGAIN! He&#8217;s the best leader we have in the House right now (in fact, he is the best and most professional leader of any political party in Canada right now).</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/04/24/laytons-ndp-lost/#comment-23789</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NDP made the correct choice. Now they are the only ones who can campaign on Afghanistan. It's a dead issue as far as the Liberals go. They endorsed it, nothing left to say.

Dumb on their part.

Cheers,
lance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NDP made the correct choice. Now they are the only ones who can campaign on Afghanistan. It&#8217;s a dead issue as far as the Liberals go. They endorsed it, nothing left to say.</p>
<p>Dumb on their part.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
lance</p>
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		<title>By: Sean. S.</title>
		<link>http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2007/04/24/laytons-ndp-lost/#comment-23788</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean. S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My original post did have me scratching my head, as you will see in the updated one I have exercised some of those demons from my head. 
If you actually read into the motion and the NDPs reason's for voting it down (which I originally didn't, which is bad on my part) you will see that they were forced to take a principled stand...which unfortunately meant the perceived bad optics (on first glance at least) of supporting the Conservatives.

So I think it would be wise to define the meaning of the first line of your post, since you are implying that the NDP did something against its own principles/policy, which it didn't...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My original post did have me scratching my head, as you will see in the updated one I have exercised some of those demons from my head.<br />
If you actually read into the motion and the NDPs reason&#8217;s for voting it down (which I originally didn&#8217;t, which is bad on my part) you will see that they were forced to take a principled stand&#8230;which unfortunately meant the perceived bad optics (on first glance at least) of supporting the Conservatives.</p>
<p>So I think it would be wise to define the meaning of the first line of your post, since you are implying that the NDP did something against its own principles/policy, which it didn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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