Comments on: Are we sending enough people to prison? http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/ News, Insights, and Humour Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:30:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: sean http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14052 sean Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:55:32 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14052 We need to strenghten our prisons, like stop giving inmates highschool-college educations, its very useless to teach an excon education because he will not be hired with a ciminal recored. What really pisses me off those most is seeing female inmates in the womens prison system get a easy way out by taking there newborn babys in prison, and at the same time, they are getting a highschool-college school work. This kind of thing really undermines punishment We need to strenghten our prisons, like stop giving inmates highschool-college educations, its very useless to teach an excon education because he will not be hired with a ciminal recored. What really pisses me off those most is seeing female inmates in the womens prison system get a easy way out by taking there newborn babys in prison, and at the same time, they are getting a highschool-college school work. This kind of thing really undermines punishment

]]> By: sean http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14043 sean Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:06:22 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14043 capital punishment should also be applied to kids under 18 as well capital punishment should also be applied to kids under 18 as well

]]> By: sean http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14039 sean Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:40:46 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14039 I strongly 100%support Capital Punishment such as a firing squad, hanging or the electric chair I strongly 100%support Capital Punishment such as a firing squad, hanging or the electric chair

]]> By: sean http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14038 sean Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:39:13 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14038 our prison systems are too soft thats the problem, we need to enforce more chaingangs for female inmates who feel they want rehabilitation. our prison systems are too soft thats the problem, we need to enforce more chaingangs for female inmates who feel they want rehabilitation.

]]> By: sean http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14037 sean Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:37:27 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-14037 I strongly feel that all women inmates in a womens prison who serve a lifetime for murder or other serious crimes, should lose there rights to take care of there newborns while in prison. Its not fair for a newborn baby to growup in prison just because the mother is a criminal, by taking care of there newborns while in prison, its giving women inmates an easy way out plus not to mention other things thats giving them an easy way out such as a free college education. I feel if women inmates want to be rehabilitated, why not send there butts over to a prison chaingang just like how it used to be in the 1940s I strongly feel that all women inmates in a womens prison who serve a lifetime for murder or other serious crimes, should lose there rights to take care of there newborns while in prison. Its not fair for a newborn baby to growup in prison just because the mother is a criminal, by taking care of there newborns while in prison, its giving women inmates an easy way out plus not to mention other things thats giving them an easy way out such as a free college education. I feel if women inmates want to be rehabilitated, why not send there butts over to a prison chaingang just like how it used to be in the 1940s

]]> By: cycles2k http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-3356 cycles2k Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:25:52 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-3356 Saskboy, terribly disturbing as you find my comment, I shall try to reiterate it because I have heard this before type of thing before and I think it is a suggestion that runs contrary to the objective evidence . Conservatives are often aghast. Their get tough on crime is bad policy that will result in an increase in crime, just as it did in every jurisdiction that implemented it. Off the cuff ideas may be equally destructive and I am thankful that we have an independant judiciary that is not nfluenced by the tides of political fashion. It allows them to work on justice instead of focusing on simply creating the appearance of justice. "In recent years the criminal has been getting the benefit of the doubt in this balance, and the result every year has been preventable crimes against children, property, and adults." Have you any evidence of this other than a few incidents?. Have you evidence of a society that humiliated its young people or their parents into lawfullness? Victim sentencing cannot work. Some victims will seek fair punishment, some will seek minimal sentences and other will seek the severest available punishment. Repeat after me "telling people to repeat after me is bad form." Brandon Writes: "Don’t you think that’s a little dramatic?" Not really. Dramatic would be calling the idea babaric. Saskboy, terribly disturbing as you find my comment, I shall try to reiterate it because I have heard this before type of thing before and I think it is a suggestion that runs contrary to the objective evidence .

Conservatives are often aghast. Their get tough on crime is bad policy that will result in an increase in crime, just as it did in every jurisdiction that implemented it. Off the cuff ideas may be equally destructive and I am thankful that we have an independant judiciary that is not nfluenced by the tides of political fashion. It allows them to work on justice instead of focusing on simply creating the appearance of justice.

“In recent years the criminal has been getting the benefit of the doubt in this balance, and the result every year has been preventable crimes against children, property, and adults.”

Have you any evidence of this other than a few incidents?. Have you evidence of a society that humiliated its young people or their parents into lawfullness?

Victim sentencing cannot work. Some victims will seek fair punishment, some will seek minimal sentences and other will seek the severest available punishment.

Repeat after me “telling people to repeat after me is bad form.”

Brandon Writes: “Don’t you think that’s a little dramatic?”

Not really. Dramatic would be calling the idea babaric.

]]> By: Saskboy http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-3355 Saskboy Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:35:33 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-3355 Matt, not all victims are blubbering masses. Some just genuinely want to protect other people from the fate they suffered. We're talking generally months or years after the initial crime, for when they'd give their input for either sentencing or parole. And unlike now, they'd have an actual vote on the release, instead of just giving a victim's statement. Remember, they didn't ask to be dragged into the justice system, but if they want to stay there and help dole out the fix, then that should be an option open to them. The criminal will just have to take that into account before doing the crime. You know, don't do the crime if you can't do the time? Matt, not all victims are blubbering masses. Some just genuinely want to protect other people from the fate they suffered. We’re talking generally months or years after the initial crime, for when they’d give their input for either sentencing or parole. And unlike now, they’d have an actual vote on the release, instead of just giving a victim’s statement. Remember, they didn’t ask to be dragged into the justice system, but if they want to stay there and help dole out the fix, then that should be an option open to them. The criminal will just have to take that into account before doing the crime. You know, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time?

]]> By: Matt http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-3344 Matt Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:01:31 +0000 http://www.abandonedstuff.com/2006/07/31/conservativesneedmorejails/#comment-3344 I must ask? What is the next step? Why don't we allow the victims to dole out whatever punishment they deem fit? It seems to me that is this one of those situations where emotions would dilute any effective input the victims may be able to provide. I must ask? What is the next step? Why don’t we allow the victims to dole out whatever punishment they deem fit? It seems to me that is this one of those situations where emotions would dilute any effective input the victims may be able to provide.

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