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1. Amanda | 29-Jul-06 at 8:59 am | Permalink

   Gotta say, as a mother of a soon to be seven month old breastfeeding child, I don’t nurse in public. For several reasons. A) Its awkward and I like to spread out on a bed, but that might be because my child is bloody large. B) I don’t exactly feel comfortable having my boobs out in other people’s view. C) Many members of the potential viewing public are uncomfortable with that and I will respect that. D) Its really much more pleasant to nurse in private as it is not only an act of nutrition but one of bonding.

   Just like sex is perfectly natural and normal but is still considered private, so should nursing be. Its an intimate experience between mother and child.

   Before people jump down my throat with both feet, I would like to explain that the preceeding comments were my own personal preference. I don’t think twice if the mother in the next booth is nursing her infant. Hey if she’s cool with it all the power to her. And if my child was hungry and there was NO POSSIBLE WAY I could get to a private place to feed him, then of course I would nurse in public. I’m just saying I like to plan my day so that it won’t be necessary.

   Now I’m rambling so I’ll stop.

2. Saskboy | 29-Jul-06 at 11:51 am | Permalink

   Not going to jump down your throat, you don’t have the destructive attitude where you are someone jumping down the throats of a mother nursing her child in public. I have the cultural right [and legal] to walk down a street shirtless, but I don’t care to do it. I won’t criticize someone who chooses to.

3. cenobyte | 29-Jul-06 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

   I nurse my kid, and have nursed my kids, wherever and whenever they are hungry. I respect folks who prefer to nurse in private, and I respect folks who have tried their damndest to nurse instead of go with formula but who, for whatever reason, really have difficulty with nursing.

   I think breastfeeding has come a long way even in the six years since my first son was born. I was very fortunate never to have had to deal with people chastising me for nursing in public (except for one lady who insisted I carry a tea towel around with me in case I needed to nurse in church…she’s a very funny woman). Then again, if anybody *did* make a stink about it, I wouldn’t have noticed.

   Once, though, someone asked me in a restaurant if maybe I wouldn’t be more comfortable nursing in the bathroom, and I replied with “I wonder if maybe *you* wouldn’t be more comfortable with me nursing in the bathroom. Grown-ups don’t eat in the bathroom, and neither will the baby, but thank you for your concern”.

   I’m certainly no exhibitionist when it comes to nursing; I do my best to be discrete about it, and I’m not all militant and jumping up and down waving my teats about in the mall or anything, but I do applaud the La Leche League and lactation activists who promote breastfeeding, whether in public or in private.

4. Ashley | 31-Jul-06 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

   yay john! i take this as permission to bear my breasts in public, as long as something small is sucking on them :)

   in all seriousness though, when you wrote this you and i discussed it, and i think this is a great stance to take :-)

5. Saskboy | 31-Jul-06 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

   I think that’s fair… if a guy wants to walk around topless, he should have a “biting midget” sucking the nipples.

   Anyone else, don’t ask what a “biting midget” is.

6. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 2:01 am | Permalink

   i happen to be a Catholic, Ultra Right Wing Conservative, and i think that breastfeeding in public is lowclass, cheap, trashy, indecent exposure and no classy women with conservative values would dare to breastfeed her child in public. Any women in a restaurant, store or airplane who wants to breastfeed there child, should have some common curtiousy, CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND CLASS to breastfeed there child in PRIVATE like a car, a bathroom or inside a house. Breastfeeding in public is no different then defacating in public or urinating in public due to the fact that they are all bodily functions that shouldnt be exposed out in the opening. Women who wanna breastfeed in planes in front of a bunch of passengers, should either do it in the bathroom or be removed from the airplane for common curtiousy. Real Classy, upscale sophisticated conservative right wingers dont ever breastfeed there child in public because most conservatives believe in CLASS, SHAME AND DECENCY

7. Saskboy | 29-Nov-06 at 8:43 am | Permalink

   Sean, nice little bit of satire there. You spelled “they are all” correctly once, and gave yourself away.

8. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

   I just wanna say that being that i’m a Catholic, right wing , conservative in all, but if i were President of the United States, i would make it illegal everywhere in all 50 states to breastfeed a child in public, including outside in parks. I can see how liberals love to try and destroy the moral fabric of this country and to contribute this moral breakdown in our society by condoning this inappropriate behaviour in public places. Liberals love to try and push things in our faces thats not acceptable by conservative values like gay and lesbian behaviour, if liberals can push gay and lesbian behaviour in our faces, they can push breastfeeding in public to be acceptable in our faces. These women who demand there precious rights to breastfeed a child in public like in restaurants or airplanes, arent really doing it so much for the childs benifits like they want you to think. What this all really boils down to is that these are manhating liberal feminist who wanna start trouble to shove it in our faces in public by exposing there boobs to create a big scene of audience by doing it all for themselves basically. For airline stewerdess to escort women out of airplanes for not respecting airline regulations to wanna breastfeed there kids in front of passengers…good i’m glad because its about time these airline stewerdess make a stand on airline regulations which we lost alot of it during the mid 1970s era. A society that can condone breastfeeding in public is a society that doesnt care and will aventually collaps due to the fact that this liberal society is contributing a moral breakdown in society. If a society can condone breastfeeding a child in public, how long will it be till a society as screwy as this one in America condone defacating in public and urinating in public places because people demand to much ****ed up rights in this country as it is. Of coarse women will get chastised for this indecent behaviour in public places because its the same thing as peeing in public or pooping in public. Bodily functions should not be exposed in public if people have class, decency and shame plus know the meaning of embarrasment. Any women with CLASS, DECENCY, CONSERVATIVE VALUES who wants to breastfeed her child, would obviously take that child somehwhere in private to breastfeed him or her like a bathroom, a car or inside a house, its just common curtiousy, common decency and the respect for others. Women who wanna breastfeed there child in public should know the meaning of shame and embarrasment because after all they are exposing a body part that should be unacceptable like there boobs. Its just down right discraceful and tacky to breastfeed a baby in public but for them to use breastfeeding as a front to coverup the fact that they are really out to be provocative to wanna showoff there boobs in public and to have people stare and whisper.

9. Saskboy | 29-Nov-06 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

   Does that mean you’re not kidding then Sean?

10. Ashley | 29-Nov-06 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    LMFAO @ Sean….dont men already whip it out and pee in public places?

11. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Hi…just to let you know on this issue that breastfeeding a child in public is indecent, its intolerant, its disturbing because of the fact that sexual body parts are being exposed out in the opening where everyone can see such as boobs. I happen to be a Catholic, ultra, right wing, conservative who has strong moral principles and good conservative values, breastfeeding in public should be illegal all over 50 states like in restaurants, outside in parks, airplanes, buses and super markets. A women demanding rights to breastfeed her child because you was rejected those rights on an airplane because of airline regulations, should not make an issue out of it or a big contraversy out of it because of the fact that we have no rights to question rules and regulations. When she goes out to demand those rights to breastfeed her child in public, she isnt really doing it for the childs benifits just so he or she can eat, what this all really boils down to is that she is doing it for herself just so she can push it in societys faces to expose her boobs which is intolerant and lack of common curtiousy. To go out and breastfeed a child out in public shows you have no respect for society, common curtiousy for society and no respect for yourself, women who have CLASS, DECENCY, CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND OF COARSE SHAME, would take there baby to where its PRIVATE and breastfeed him or her there such as a bathroom, a car or behind a bush. Breastfeeding a child out in public is indecent, lowclass, shameful, discraceful and is a bodily function just like taking a crap or a pee, no difference. If society can condone breastfeeding in public, soon or a later down the line the more society gets to liberal, they will condone urinating in public and defacating in public as well as nudity in public. Our American society once held conservative values and conservative high standard codes during the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s because this country went to hell until the 1970s. It used to be a time during the 1940s that any women who dared to breastfeed her child in public, would be chastised and looked at as a slut or a whore when society really use to care and didnt give a crap about these liberal rights that gays and lesbians demand and liberal feminist demand such as breastfeeding in public. When a society that doesnt care as much as they used to anymore to allow inappropriate behaviour such as breastfeeding in public…soon or a later society will aventually collaps and soon society will fall into a moral breakdown in society. A women who wants to breastfeed her child has those rights, just as long as she stays descreet by covering herself up and not giving to much exposure for people to see, she has so many options like covering up, breastfeeding a child in the bathroom or in a car, but to breastfeed a child indescreetly is wrong and is a no no. Many neo-conservatives oppose this bad habits to be socielly accepted in our society because of the fact its lowclass, indecent and bad manners, espcially if your in a country club full of upscale people, or in a upscale restaurant with rich, classy, sophisticated upscale people. Breastfeeding a child should be done away from public places where its more private where noone cant see, any women with class, decency, conservative values and shame ought to know that
    umm Ashely…men with CLASS, DECENCY AND CONSERVATIVE VALUES always keeps there flys ziped up all the way in rich upscale inviroments like country clubs and rich upscale restaurants and for you to ask me this question Saskboy “Does that mean you’re not kidding then Sean?”, no im not kidding, if a were president of the United states, breastfeeding in public places like restaurants, airplanes, public parks and buses would be illegal and socielly unacceptable. Many Ultra, right wingers oppose breastfeeding in public because many Catholic conservatives believe in decency, class, moral values and sophistications. Going by statistics, more women demanding rights to breastfeed in public were all lowerclass groups where as upperclass groups of women rarely dont ever breastfeed there babys in public such as lawyers, doctors, CEOs and business women. Going into a upscale restaurant and seeing a women breastfeeding her child is defanatly a eyesore and an oxymoron because you cant have it bothways to be classy and to be in a upscale inviroment, but to turn around and do some of the most dirtiest bad habits which you would expect from a lower class group of women who are on welfare

12. Saskboy | 29-Nov-06 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Moral fabric breakdown, eh? That’s quite a slippery slope, that leads from properly fed, quiet babies, to total anarchy and public urination. Just what makes breastfeeding shameful anyway? From your comments Sean, I’d guess it’s because you feel that “boobs” are primarily there for the benefit of attracting male attention.

    use breastfeeding as a front to coverup the fact that they are really out to be provocative to wanna showoff there boobs in public

    From that, I’d guess you’ve not read Amanda’s comment above you, or spoken to any woman who breastfeeds. It’s a pretty narrow view to assume that most women want people to look at them with a baby attached to their boob. It says more about your own insecurities about female nudity, than it says about real female intentions.

    Your premise that breastfeeding is shameful, is faulty to begin with. There’s nothing shameful with breastfeeding in the first place, and I’m confused about how you reached that conclusion. What exactly makes it a “shameful” thing to do? Where’s the “class” in letting a kid go hungry, or stuffing them into a washroom stall or under a blanket? How is it a “family value” to make a woman find a secret place to feed her kid - it’s not like we’re in the jungle and might get ambushed by a tiger?

13. Ashley | 29-Nov-06 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    this sean guy repeats himself a lot….

    “…CLASS, DECENCY AND CONSERVATIVE VALUES…”

    “If i were president of the united states…..”

    “i’m a Catholic, right wing , conservative…”

14. Saskboy | 29-Nov-06 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    “airline regulations, … because of the fact that we have no rights to question rules and regulations.”

    Sean, your logic escapes me. If we don’t question regulations, then how do they ever change? There’s a time and place to question them, and on the plane isn’t it, but people are encouraged to refine regulations. If laws were perfect as they are, there’d be no need for Congress, or the President.

    “Many Ultra, right wingers oppose breastfeeding in public because many Catholic conservatives believe in decency, class, moral values and sophistications.”

    That’s just circular logic - both Catholics and ultra-right wingers believe in decency,class, etc. so you can’t say one opposes breastfeeding because the other group is classy. The logic doesn’t work - you won’t convince anyone with that kind of logic. What’s the real reason behind the motives? Try digging a little deeper.

    When you reply, hit Enter an extra time between paragraphs, and your comment will be easier to read.

    “Going by statistics, more women demanding rights to breastfeed in public were all lowerclass groups where as upperclass groups of women rarely dont ever breastfeed there babys in public such as lawyers, doctors, CEOs and business women.”

    Assuming your statistics are accurate, that’s because working women tend not to have enough time to do ideal things at home - so their fast-food bottle fed babies will have health complications that arise from that lifestyle choice. If being “upperclass” is supposed to improve society, why is an “upperclass” tendency the neglect of ideal healthcare for babies ?

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16. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Ummm first of all Ashely, i dont repeat myself, im just expressing my oppinions which you dont seem to wanna respect, like most liberals who cant respect one a nothers oppinions, you have to go an resort to your liberal ad-hominem attacks on me because i dont agree with you. Breastfeeding in public is very shameful because of the fact that they are exposing a sexual body part which of coarse is gonna turn alot of heads to make others feel uncompfortable or chastise. And Saskboy…i never said theres anything wrong with breastfeeding a child, i’m all for it, but its just that when you breastfeed a child in public, you are throwing your CLASS AND DECENCY out the window. If your a women and you wanna breastfeed a child…expect to have many people point at you descreetly and whisper behind your back because breastfeeding in public gives a person a bad reputation and always has since the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s when America believed in good conservative family values where it has been left off by the puritans and pilgrims. See Ashley…for you to sit here and resort to your ad-hominem attacks on me by saying i repeat myself about DECENCY, CLASS AND CONSERVATIVE VALUES, is something you need to know because obviously society among people like yourselves must have forgotten about it, or havent been raised by a good upbringing about table manners. All Catholic right wing conservatives will tell you that breastfeeding is discraceful and shameful for our society. Women should hold a higher standard of class way more then men, but when women openup there breast, people automatically lose lots of respect for women because women should have a lot more shame then men for there sexual behvaiour and there sexual bodyparts being exposed. If a man walks around shirtless, it doesnt look bad for the male gender since the male gender doesnt hold a higher standard of class as much as women, but the minute a women walks around shirtless, her higher class of standards is triped and she is looked down at the nose by the rest of a decent society as being either a slut or a whore for to invite anyone to touch her

17. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    ummm cenobyte…just to let you know your right, what you said that grownups dont eat in bathrooms, but when it concerns a baby involved that needs to be breastfed, that mother has to take that baby into the bathroom to be breastfed for privacy. A newborn baby having the same rights as adults to be fed in restaurant, but the only thing through nipples which babys suck on is totally abcurred and not the same exact thing. as adults that we are when we eat in restaurants, we are learning about table manners, how to use utensils and learning restaurant etiquette which is very normal. But to compare a baby being breastfed in a restaurant as to say that its the same thing as adults eating in public restaurants is like taking a cows head in a restaurant and butchering it right in front of customers at a burger restaurants —hypothedically speaking—which that should not be acceptable. A newborn baby being breastfed is nothing and i mean nothing at all the same thing as adults eating in public restaurants because newborn babys dont understand the meaning of table manners, and arent using utensils to eat but to suck on nipples which is very unsanitary and lowclass like as if an adult were to slurp on his soup bowl without using a silverwear like a dog would. As adults that we are when we eat in public restaurants, we arent exposing a sexual body part at all but using utensils and learning table manners and etiquette, where as breastfeeding a child in public is lowclass for the child being that the child doesnt know manners yet and also lowclass for the mother since the mother is exposing her boobs. Thats how ignorant a liberal society can be by indoctrinating this stupidity nonesense for them to says that “oh a baby should not be treated differently by having to eat in a bathroom and not in a restaurant with the rest of the adults who eat in public restaurants”. We cannot put breastfeeding in public in the same catagory as adults who eat in public because those two are nothing at all alike and should not even be compared to

18. Locusta emersonia | 29-Nov-06 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Ummm Sean, breasts are not sexual organs, they are the organs humans (and mammals) use to feed their offspring.
    Obviously, Sean has bad thoughts about breasts and these odd thoughts convolute in his warped mind into sexual thoughts.
    Personally, I get grossed out when I see someone with terrible table manners overeating in public, but I wouldn’t presume to ask them to go eat like a pig in a germ-ridden bathroom or stay home.
    Get over yourself Sean.
    BTW have you seen statues of Lady Justice? If you are so grossed out over exposed breasts, I would advise you not to go to Rome or Greece. Or France. Or Wreck Beach for that matter.
    If you do show up at the Beach though, I’ll show you mine ;)

19. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    ummm Locusta….breast are sexual organs because of the fact that it turns a lot of peoples heads when they see a women topless, just the same way a mans penis is a sexual organ when he chooses to walk out in public without his pants . You cannot justify exposing your sexual body parts to use breastfeeding as a front an order to do it in public, to breastfeed a child in public is giving away to much sexual exposure and also throwing class and decency out the window. When you socielly accept this bad habit for our society, you are basically contributing this moral breakdown in our society to where we will lose a civilized society. We are not animals that we can just go out and cross a certian line to make ourselves look uncivilized and look bad, God gave human beings the gift of intelligents to understand the the concept of being civilized more then animals. Even Dogs and cats as much as they are uncivilized, will nurse there pups or kittens where its more PRIVATE like a closet or behind a bush. This whole breastfeeding in public issue isnt really all about the childrens needs to eat or they will starve, this is really all about liberal feminist women wanting to push there bad indecent habits in our faces just enough for society to aventually come to grips to accept it. Just like how society came to grips to socielly accept gay and lesbian behaviour in our society as much as liberals were trying so hard to push it in our faces as society that we are to accept it which i never did. These liberal feminist breastfeeding moms are down right trouble makers and are doing everything they can to destroy a civilized society to have society see boobs as not as a indecent thing to be accepted in public . When liberals take power to this country, they will do everything in the power to destroy it every which way they can and to educate ignorant people by believing there standards as normal. Breastfeeding a child in public is very tacky, and very shameful, women should have shame then to discrace themselves in public by exposing there boobs. It just makes a women look slutty and a provocative trouble maker to wanna push and impose there indecent trashy behaviour on a decent civilized society. Catholic conservative right wingers oppose breastfeeding in public due to the fact that conservatives believe in decency and good family values, plus not to mention how the Roman Catholic church including the pope and God opposes feminism

20. M@ | 29-Nov-06 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Sean,

    Your ideas intrigue me. Do you have a newsletter?

21. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    M@ yep i sure do have a news letter….im a Catholic Neo-conservative, like most conservative right wingers, they all oppose breastfeeding in public. I know if i were a airline stewerdess and i saw some women breastfeeding her child, i would throw her off the plane if she didnt wanna abide by the airline regulation standards and rules. There are many places that these women can breastfeed there child in private places, but if you ask them why they refuse to feed there child in public or coverup…they will give you 20 different excuses why they wont

22. Saskboy | 29-Nov-06 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Sean, I’ll defend Ashley because she’s away from class and can’t join in the conversation right now. Her “attack” is a criticism of your argument’s presentation, which without paragraph breaks, repetition, faulty logic, and frequent spelling and grammar errors, does not bolster your view’s appearance. In a discussion that is about highclass concepts such as decency, it’s fair to point out how you’re not exactly respecting the upscale nature of my blog, and are cluttering it with what I could call uneducated, bigoted ravings if I were feeling less generous than I do tonight only because your views intrigue me.

    Sean, the 1920s called, and they want you back. Not everything was better pre-1970. Perhaps you were alive to see them, but your slippery slope argument holds little water.

    “feel uncompfortable or chastise”
    Did you mean you’d expect people to chastise breast feeders, possibly by throwing rocks like in the good ol’ days. If they had formula in the 3rd Century B.C., don’t think they wouldn’t have done it. How does chastising or looking down on a woman who breast feeds in public benefit society?

    I’ve never heard before that God opposes feminism. Are you sure you aren’t just making all this up? Where did you learn this stuff?

23. sean | 29-Nov-06 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    saskboy…for you to put words in my mouth for saying this “Just what makes breastfeeding shameful anyway? ” and for you to also say this to put words in my mouth like this “There’s nothing shameful with breastfeeding in the first place,”, i never said breastfeeding is shameful anyways, i said when you breastfeed in public it is very shameful because of the fact that a sexual body part is being involved in this whole cenerio. Thats like asking ” what makes defacating or urinating shameful”, well theres nothing wrong with defacating or unrinating if you have to do it to let it all out, but when you defacate or unrinate in public places or in parks outside, then it is very lowclass, indecent and shameful as the same as a women would breastfeed her child in public. for you to ask me such outrages stuff like this “Where’s the “class” in letting a kid go hungry, or stuffing them into a washroom stall or under a blanket? How is it a “family value” to make a woman find a secret place to feed her kid - it’s not like we’re in the jungle and might get ambushed by a tiger?” , …first off all ok, to let a kid go hungry because you feel you have to much class and shame then to breastfeed a child out in the opening doesnt make you less classy ok!!! all because the child will starve??, uhh ahh my freind it just makes you a more classier person then ever to go through so much great lenghts to let a child starve just so you can save your dignity, class and sophistications to go out and publicly expose your boobs in front of 40 customers. Do not twist the meaning of “CLASS” Saskboy ok!!!, because class is all about covering your sexual body parts even if it means that the child will starve ok!! see you have a backwards way of twisting the whole meaning of class into indoctrinating it the wrong way to educate people who may not know any better and hasnt learned etiquette yet

24. Saskboy | 29-Nov-06 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    “Do not twist the meaning of “CLASS” Saskboy ok!!!, because class is all about covering your sexual body parts even if it means that the child will starve ok!!”

    Sean, I’ve never heard that view before, or even considered it. Your definition of “class” is pretty extreme, and is something I’d expect from the Taliban, not a conservative American.

    A woman cannot control when her breasts excrete milk, and I doubt you’d think a woman with a wet blouse could be considered “classy”, so how exactly is a breastfeeding mother able to go out in public at all?! Is that your point, you want to lock women in their homes? For you to compare the excretion of food [milk], to the expulsion of waste [urine], is absurd in the extreme. It’s not an ultra-conservative view, it’s a puritan view that went out of style with thumb screws, and floggings.

    Again, where did you learn these views, and are you even old enough to remember the pre-1960s?

25. Locusta emersonia | 29-Nov-06 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Sean

    BREASTS ARE NOT SEXUAL ORGANS. BREASTS ARE GLANDS USED TO GIVE SUSTENANCE TO OFFSPRING.

    Your dirty mind makes them sexual. If they turn heads, well those heads are responsible. The fact that many men and a lot of women turn their heads when breasts pop up does not in any way make them sexual organs.
    Take your ire out on the porn industry instead of trying to interfere in women and children’s lives with your evil thoughts and disrespect.
    Shame. Keep your shame, and your shameful thoughts to yourself, or not, (free speech and all) but don’t try to make others feel your shame.

26. M@ | 29-Nov-06 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Sean, please let me know what publications you might suggest I read in order to learn more about neo-conservative, catholic views on breastfeeding, stewardesses, and class. I’m not sure I could possibly hear enough on this subject.

27. rose | 30-Nov-06 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    It takes a lot of nerve to lecture about CLASS when you can’t even spell or use proper grammatical structure. Saskboy is right, it really takes away from an argument on CLASS when you use phrases like “more classier”.

    SHAME. It is the reason so many women opt to formula feed, an expensive and potentially unsafe (nutritionally, immunologically and microbiologically) method of feeding babies that will never be as good as breast-feeding no matter how many scientific miracle molecules are added. Attitudes like Sean’s are unfortunately rampant and are reinforced by behaviour such as the woman being kicked off the plane.

    Sean, exposing your breast to feed your child is “slutty”? A woman who breastfeeds in public is a “whore” who will let anyone touch her? Are there some Oedipus issues going on there? You have absolutely no credibility and sound like an idiot. You are not helping the conservative cause by expressing these extreme, bigotted, and mysoginistic views. Most conservatives would agree that God gave us these breasts for a purpose. Since flat women are able to attract mates and conceive, then that purpose must be for the nutritional sustenance of our offspring. Breasts are sexual to men because they are perceived as part of the feminine shape, and back before religion played a factor they were perhaps a sign of fertility, aiding in the attraction of mates. So Sean, how can you say that something God gave us is shameful, especially when it is used for such an important purpose? (and not being man-handled by your clumsy hands either). I am an atheist, but this attitude among “conservatives” astounds me, since it means their God (who’s image we are in) is something to be ashamed about. That implies imperfection. The breast is indecent according to Sean, but isn’t it the pervy males who are indecent, whereas the breast is merely one of God’s miracles?

    So, in Sean’s world, it must go like this: I saw this lady breastfeeding on a bench waiting for the bus this morning, and I took a gander at her boobies. I started to feel a little aroused. Especially when I saw how “udderly” huge they were I was especially turned on by their stretchmarks, leaky fluid and fairly vertical hang. I swear, everytime I see a woman breastfeeding in public I just want to haul her down and hmm hmm. Then I thought, OMIGOD, the moral fabric of our society is going to be torn apart by these breasts, because they are planning global takeover. They were THAT big. I was thinking that seeing those things would turn a whole generation of men gay and lead to the demise of Canada’s future, especially when they started marrying each other instead of impregnating females. Slippery slope indeed. Then my catholic shame took over and I’ve since repented by doing 100 hail marys and 50 pushups.

    Sean, you are seeming more and more pervy as each comment is written. Better bail before we are convinced that you are a closet boob fetishist who uses the guise of an ultra right wing conservative to compensate for your trip straight to hell. Us, well, we have a more healthy attitude about breasts in general. When I have children I plan to breastfeed. In public. And if anyone questions me I will squirt them with milk.

28. Ashley | 30-Nov-06 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    WOOT! AMEN ROSE! WOOHOO!

29. Red Jenny | 30-Nov-06 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I don’t have much to contribute, just to say this has been one of the most entertaining things I’ve read today.

    I have to say I don’t really get it? Why is breastfeeding an “issue” anyways?

    The people who are affected by breastfeeding are the baby and the mother. I have a good idea, Sean: how about the wimmens get to decide when and where the wimmens feed the babies?

30. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    first of all Red Jenny ok….i never ever thought as breastfeeding an issue ok!!!, but when you breastfeed in public and cant do it in public because of regulation standards, then women or should i say liberal feminist womens libs wanna make it an issue and a contraversy to try and push it in your face ok!!!. When you breastfeed a child in public, many conservatives will make it an issue due to the fact that mainly all extreme religious conservative groups dont believe in a wacky free society to just go and do anything you want to do without thinking about decency and class. Just so you know Jenny ok!!! breastfeeding in public is a major big issue because of the fact that boobs are being publicly exposed in front of everyone ok!!, dont you see this as quite discraceful, quite lowclass and quite trashy…plus not to mention provocative???. Come on Jenny if you dont seem to recognice that, then it shows what little manners, etiquette and conservative values you have, not to mention class. Jenny….i come from a ultra conservative, catholic family ok!!!, i was raised from a very good upbringing of good parents who taught me about class, etiquette and from the time i was 5 years old. I was taught that you never go into a public place dressing half exposed or half naked should i say, both my parents are rich well to do people. My father is a Doctor and my mom is a lawyer, and when you come from a rich well to do upscale family, you learn about whats right and whats wrong, you learn the concept of manners and class, which is very common from a rich upbringing. When you come from a lowerclass upbringing that you were raised from a slum or ghetto, your parents are more then likely are gonna be lowclass, because of the fact that your family was raised too from a lowclass poor upbringing who wasnt taught to learn whats right and whats wrong about manners and class. Then again, poor lowerclass groups of people dont get it because of the fact they werent raised properly, until someone has to educate them the right way about class which i try to do. To breastfeed in public shows you have no class and no manners ok!!!, any rich conservative upscale person will tell you that you just dont do that in public upscale places or anywhere for that matter, upscale or not. Just look at the majority of women who wanna breastfeed there children in public places, nine times out of ten they are always, and i mean always trashy and there upbringing was very trashy and lowclass, because of the fact they didnt teach them the right way about manners. We live in a free society that, many of us need to put the brakes down to it and say its wrong and shouldnt be acceptable for this society like gay and lesbian marriages and breastfeeding in public. When we let our manners, decency, conservative values go to waste, then pretty soon we let civilization go to hell to where we are no different then animals or cavemen. For you to say this Jenny…”The people who are affected by breastfeeding are the baby and the mother.” makes it seem like we are all affected by breastfeeding in general which we arent ok!!!, we arent affected by breastfeeding Jenny, just as long as you coverup and do it behind closed doors away from public places where it wont offend us and affect us. Thats like saying “the people who are affected by urinating or defacating is me and myself” when you urinate or defacate in public, its gonna affect and offend everyone around you because of the fact that its a bodily function just like breastfeeding a child in public places. And Rose…again dont come in this room and tell me how to lecture about class ok!!! and to sit here and use your ad-hominem attacks on me about bad grammer ok!!!, your one of those people that if noone agrees with you, you will insult them and throw ad-hominem attacks on them. Rose…if someone doesnt speakup about this whole issue being wrong for our society, then people like you will never get it, you need to learn about class and manners Rose , because obviously i can see you werent raised the right way. To say this Rose ….”Attitudes like Sean’s are unfortunately rampant and are reinforced by behaviour such as the woman being kicked off the plane.” and to ask this….”Sean, exposing your breast to feed your child is “slutty”? A woman who breastfeeds in public is a “whore” who will let anyone touch her? Are there some Oedipus issues going on there?” , Rose…just so you know, if there were more and more people like me with my kind of attitude which i sure there are some, then we would live in a more civilized un-freesociety, just like how it used to be in the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, before the hippie dippies came along to revolutionize against a moral society. I think any women who cant cover herself up when ordered by the airline stewerdess to coverup and even refuse to take her bad habits to the bathroom to breastfeed, then she deserves to be booted out of the airplane. There is a flight full of passengers who take offense to that kind of disturbing and offensing action, when we allow breastfeeding moms to have rights to breastfeed on planes openly in front of passengers, soon or a later we have airline de-regulation standards to where, all commercial airplanes are nothing more then just a buss with wings. The whole purpose of going on a airplane as well as for traveling purposes, is to get all dressed up in nice suits and nice dresses to show some class, decency, conservative values and etiquette as a good flight passenger is supposed to be like, the way it use to be at one point. When giving orders not to breastfeed openly in planes, you do not question those rules and regulations, you do not make a contraversy out of it ok!!!. –hypothedically speaking—that would be like me having my foot in the aisle of the airplane and then the stewerdess kindly ask me to remove my foot out of the aisle and then i make it an issue and question that rule. Also Rose, exposing your boobs in public to breastfeed your child does make you look like a cheap, trashy, whore and a slut ok!!!, women who wanna breastfeed in public arent really doing it so much for the childs needs, what it all boils down to is that they wanna start trouble to push there bad habits in your face to look provocative and to make a big scene. If you cant cover yourself up, then you derserve to be remove from public property and be asked nicely to go breastfeed your child somehwhere were its more PRIVATE and noone around. Rose…i can see you lack lots of SHAME, LOTS OF CONSERVATIVE VALUES, PRIDE AND COMMON CURTIOUSY for one a nother, Rose….when you breastfeed a child in public to invite people into seeing your bad habits, it shows you have no respect for society, it shows you have no respect for yourself plus class and manners. When a freesociety with no values allow breastfeeding in public to be socielly acceptable, soon or a later society wont care anymore and will condone nudity in public and defacating-urinating in public as well. Its how logical progression works, when society doesnt care and doesnt set limits to there indecent lowclass behaviours, society becomes a total waste and civilization goes to hell. Rose….God gave women breast, just like God gave men penises, but does that mean men cant be shameful enough to expose there penises in public?? of coarse Rose because a penis is a sexual body part just like a breast, you should understand that and know that by now and to ask me this this …..”The breast is indecent according to Sean, but isn’t it the pervy males who are indecent, whereas the breast is merely one of God’s miracles? ” well i never said the breast is indecent, but when you expose it in public, yes it is indecent because the breast again as i said is indecent when you publicly have it opened where everyone can see. Males who are perverts are not as indecent as females since females invite male perverts to look at there breast and have anyone just touch them all over. Rose…your not thinking to clear ok!!! let me make this straight ok!!! women by nature are more respected then men ok!!! because women are supposed to hold a higher class of standard then men, but the minute women dress slutty and half naked, then they de-rail there higher class of stadards to where people will automatically lose all respect for women. Women are morely to blame for then men since women let men touch all over them and not coveredup, women are supposed to hold a much higher self esteem then men just enough to not let anyone touch them. You cannot call males sluts or whores since the male gender doesnt hold as much as a higher class of standards like females. When women lower there high standards and open there breast for just anyone to touch them or look at them, then that makes a women a total slut and a whore with lack of respect plus not to mention discracefulness to the female gender . A male can walk around topless —not that i’m saying its classy or decent—, but a male can get away with walking around topless without a shirt then a female, because a male doesnt have sexual body parts on him and plus like i said, males dont hold that higher class of respect and standards like females. Women are supposed to have respect for themselves then men then to let anyone touch all over them and look at there boobs, and if you can sit here Rose and say that males who are perverts can be indecent for checking out a womens boobs, then your really not blaming your own gender, your basically not seeing this as wrong for women. I got news for you Rose, Women are 10 times much more to blame for then male so-called indecent perverts since women cant seem to cover themselves up and not have enough self esteem to then to say no, wheres your self esteem Rose??. I just wanna let you know this Rose…you are about as lowclass and cheap as they come when you condone your bad indecent habits for our society such as breastfeeding in public, people like you dont get it, your parents didnt get it when they were kids so obviously you dont get it until you are educated about class and etiquette from someone who is intelligent and conservative as me. Saskboy…..this is what you said……”Sean, I’ve never heard that view before, or even considered it. Your definition of “class” is pretty extreme, and is something I’d expect from the Taliban, not a conservative American.” Umm just to let you know Saskboy ok…my definition of class is not to extreme ok!!! my definition of class, is the same class from the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s to those standards of class back in those era’s Saskboy. My definition of class and decency is all a throwback to the 1930s era Saskboy, maybe not to your standards of your kind of class Saskboy, and to say you would expect my kind of class from the Talaba Saskboy, well actually im nothing like the Talaban, in fact i would love to see a society condone all women to wear highheels and a dress, not burkas my freind. Most liberals like you who condone breastfeeding in public among other indecent bad habits for our free, ****ed up society will always label Conservatism as the Talaban or lable Catholics are the same catogary as Muslims. You asked me this Saskboy “I’ve never heard before that God opposes feminism. Are you sure you aren’t just making all this up? Where did you learn this stuff? ” Umm Saskboy…God does oppose feminism ok!!! feminism is a sin in the bible, femnism is part of the devils work which the pope of the Roman Catholic church forbids, femnism destroys the moral fabrics of this country, feminism destroys marraiges, feminism contributes to abortions and divorces ok!!!, i am Catholic Saskboy and i know all these things. Locusta….you said this on your post “Take your ire out on the porn industry instead of trying to interfere in women and children’s lives with your evil thoughts and disrespect.” …, Locusta…noone is trying to interfere in any women and childrens lives ok!!!, when you breastfeed your child in public openly to showoff your boobs, your making people very uncompfortable, your making a total slut out of yourself, your making a total discrace and a total whore out of yourself when you flash your boobs in public to breastfeed a child. Locusta…thats not acceptable for our society ok!!! nevermind being in a rich upscale public inviroment, but to breastfeed a child anywhere is giving yourself away as a cheap trash and a whore with lack of class, lack of respect for yourself and lack of common curtiousy for one a nother Locusta. If you get kicked out of an airplane or a public place Locusta for breastfeeding a child in public, its not interfering at all, in a women and childs life, its simply keeping a public places, standards and rules and regulations up high. Thats like saying Locusta ” take your ire take head out of the waste industry and stop interfering on someones private life wether they wanna take a dump in public or a pee in public”

31. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    umm Saskboy….you asked me this “A woman cannot control when her breasts excrete milk, and I doubt you’d think a woman with a wet blouse could be considered “classy”, so how exactly is a breastfeeding mother able to go out in public at all?! Is that your point, you want to lock women in their homes?” ummm Saskboy…your right about that, women with wet blouses are are less classy if they cant seem to take there baby in a more PRIVATE place like a bathroom , car , behind a bush or even to coverup for that matter. Saskboy…whats so hard about covering yourself up to be less exposed when wanting to breastfeed your child ha?? whats so hard about taking your newborn baby to a more PRIVATE place like either a bathroom or a car Saskboy??. Saskboy if you ask all these breastfeeding moms why they cant coverup or go somewhere private, they will give you 20 different lame excuses why they cant breastfeed there children in private places when you can see there are so many options of privacy to choose from but they refuse it because they have one lame excuse after a nother. Saskboy….as far as im concern if they cant be shameful and embarrased about there dirty indecent exposures such as breastfeeding in public and cant go somewhere where its more PRIVATE, when you can see there are 50 different private places to breastfeed your child, then there oughta be a law to have all breastfeeding mothers be locked in there own homes to breastfeed there kids. After all Saskboy, there are laws against public nudity and other forms of indecent exposure, there are laws too against Urinating and defacating in public and the way i see it Saskboy…i place breastfeeding in public as in the same catagory as peeing or defacating in public because its all bodily functions that shouldnt be exposed. Its all indecencyness and lowclass that brings our civilization down to hell if we live in to much of a freesociety that opresses it

32. Locusta emersonia | 30-Nov-06 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Sean

    I think you are a raving wingnut, and your comparison of the feeding of children to defecating and urinating is just weird. Why you equate women’s breasts with your penis is a mystery. Women’s breasts are just the working version of your own breasts, Sean. Women boobs = Men boobs, Man Penis = Woman Vagina. Thats how that works, Sean. The sexual organs, Penis and Vagina, are what makes babies, see? Simple.

    Also, the 20’s and 30’s were the ERA of “upper-class” bodacious living with bathtub gin, prohibition (which everyone ignored), flapper dresses, cocaine, debauchery, week-long parties and general mayhem. Somehow, the country survived.
    Conservative values = high heels and dresses for women. How old-fashioned. Wakeup call, Sean: women can wear pretty much what they please these days, pretty much just like it was back in the Roaring Twenties and the Dirty Thirties.

    Sounds like you have a foot fetish also… but we’ll leave that alone, ok?

    Thank goodness I nor my breasts will ever encounter you at the Beach.

33. M@ | 30-Nov-06 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Technically, Rose’s attacks were “ad grammara” rather than “ad hominem”. And I’d like to learn about these rich, conservative, upscale places you mention, as I’d like to be able to go there and avoid all the breasts flying around in my face when I go to the bus depot, bowling alley, and liberal strategy meetings.

    But otherwise, I think the degree of wisdom of Sean’s lecture should be quite obvious to everyone.

    Oh, one other point — public exposure of breasts is perfectly legal here, in Ontario (though not, I expect, in Saskatchewan or wherever Sean calls home). It’s really just evidence of how low-class and un-conservative this province is. I’m movin’ to Alberta, man.

34. Saskboy | 30-Nov-06 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Sean, you’re welcome to continue writing, but again I just suggest you hit your Enter key after a paragraph, so that your writings are easier for other people to read.

    “soon or a later we have airline de-regulation standards to where, all commercial airplanes are nothing more then just a buss with wings. The whole purpose of going on a airplane as well as for traveling purposes, is to get all dressed up in nice suits and nice dresses to show some class,”

    Sean, you are so old fashioned, you’re about how I’d picture meeting someone from the 19th Century plucked away from a snobby dinner party by a time machine. The kind of class snobbery you’re talking about has no place in a modern free society. I understand you think the world will come crashing down if you see a woman topless, but most Americans and Canadians just don’t think that way and it’s not because they didn’t learn manners or class.

    Why didn’t you learn manners before you were 5 years old? What happened before then, and what happened at 5 to teach you?

    “im nothing like the Talaban, in fact i would love to see a society condone all women to wear highheels and a dress, not burkas my freind. Most liberals like you who condone breastfeeding in public among other indecent bad habits for our free, ****ed up society will always label Conservatism as the Talaban or lable Catholics are the same catogary as Muslims.”

    Please Sean, don’t be absurd. That’s an absurd statement, and I’ll explain why. You claim to be nothing like the Taliban because you don’t want to make women wear special clothing -burkas- that men never wear, yet you want to “condone” the use of high heels and a dress (special clothing a man would never wear). It’s a simple logical substitution to switch mandatory dress use with mandatory burka use. It’s simpler in fact than your bizarre claim that milk is like pee.

35. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    umm Locusta this is what you just said now “I think you are a raving wingnut, and your comparison of the feeding of children to defecating and urinating is just weird.”, Locusta…now your putting words in my mouth ok!!!, Locusta…when you say that i compare feeding children to defacating and urinating in public is abcurred. You said that i compare feeding children to defacating ?? first off locusta…when you say feeding children, that could mean anything Locusta, like spoon feeding your children or bottling your child. Its breastfeeding in public Locusta that is a bodily function just like defacating and urinating in public which is unacceptable ok!!!, breastfeeding a child Locusta is a bodily function just like peeing and defacating but does that mean we should condone defacating and urinating too in public Locusta??. And then you posted this too Locusta “Women’s breasts are just the working version of your own breasts, Sean. Women boobs = Men boobs, Man Penis = Woman Vagina.”, ….Locusta…for your information men dont carry a set of boobs ok!!! thats what makes women different then men, its women who wear boobs now, not the men, and women should learn to coverup more since women have a more higher stadard of class then men do since men can get away with it to be shirtless then women ok!!. Just to let you know Locusta, that a womens boobs are just as sexual as her vagina which should not be openly shown while in public places, when you breastfeed a child in public, you might as well go topless because those boobs are showing just enough where its gonna make people whisper, point and make a big scene Locusta. If you believe in breastfeeding openly in public Locusta, then i dont see why you wouldnt condone indecent exposure in our society such as going topless, nudity or defacating in public, because its all the same thing. A womens boobs are a sexual body part just like a penis and a Vagina for the simple fact that there are bodily fluids that come out of that, plus boobs on a women tends to throwoff a sexual tendency to males which are driven into staring, feeling uncompfortable and sometimes even turnedoff by it depending on what time of class group of inviroment its in. When you walk into a real expensive rich upscale restaurant or a countryclub Locusta full of rich, debonare, sophisticated, aristocrated people and then you see a women breastfeeding her child openly in front of all those people, your gonna see this as an eyesore Locusta, because in that type of inviroment, thats not socielly accepted, because of the fact that noone in that type of inviroment would do such a indecent thing. Breastfeeding a child in that type of inviroment full of upperclass groups of people Locusta, will make you feel awkward, discraceful because its out of the ordinary, plus it would really publicly humiliate you since no upperclass sophisticated people dont breastfeed there children openly in upscale inviroments or anywhere else regardless if its middleclass or upperclass. Locusta…during the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, we lived in a more decent upperclass standard society ok!!!, even people who were lowclass socielly had to liveup to the upperclass standard of living and to stay on the straight and narrow while out in public moraly and ethically ok!!!. People who were in the lowerclass group range during the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s even stayedup to there high dress code standards like wearing suits and ties and dresses, even women who were lowclass in those era’s in the 1940s werent socielly allowed to breastfeed there children in those days just so you know. Lowerclass groups of people even livedup to a upscale higherclass group of standards Locusta, women who were lowclass, knew better and had more shame then women do now then to breastfeed there children back in the 1930s era. In America since the 1970s era came along, hippies and other liberal radically groups came along to revolt against decency and standards enough to destroy it which we seem to have whats a little left of it. Our free society is what destroys manners, class and shame, a free society is why we have no more shame anymore for what bad habits we exibit out in public, a free society will soon make civilization to go hell if we dont put the brakes on bad habits like condoning breastfeeding in public. Locusta…when you sit here and say all these negative things like “oh women can wear pretty much anything they wanna wear” is why women no longer get anymore respect like they used to Locusta. Before the 1970s era, women had more power of respect over men before the womens liberation came along to destroy the good values and good nature of what God intended women to be. Since the 1970s era, women have de-railed all there respect and there power to where women are almost at the same level as men, women dont get the same respect as they once did back in the 1940s when they were all wearing highheels and dresses like they should be doing now. The womens liberation is a big evil in this country which the Catholic church strongly opposes, when you feel that women should wear whatever they wanna wear and intergrate with boys, then pretty much women lose all there delicacy and all there respect as women. It used to be back in the 1940s that when a women walked into a room, all the guys would standup for her as a form of greeting a womens presents that walks into a room with there hats off, now women dont get that kind of respect anymore because women such as feminism, is what lowers and degrades there whole standard of respect and power. Once these agry, hateful, womens liberation groups come along to demand breastfeeding in public, they are out to rub it in your face and to push there bad habits in your face to show the world that there is nothing wrong with indecent exposure such as breastfeeding a child in public. The womens liberation groups will make you think and make you believe that if they dont breastfeed there child in public that the child will go hungry, we all know thats bull****, these breastfeeding womens rights groups are really out to make it a point that indecent exposure should be acceptable wether or not society will like it or not. The womens liberation groups are using the meaning of breastfeeding as a front an order to have an excuse to showoff there boobs even if the child is not hungry, they wanna push it in your face to start trouble to to hurt the values and standards that women once held before the womens liberation and hippy dippys came along to lower our standards of decency. When Liberals try to push the gay and lesbian agenda in societys faces as if to say its normal, they are doing pretty much the same thing like breastfeeding in public. Just because women have a pair of breast to use to feed there babys, doesnt mean they have to abuse it by exposing it out in front of a bunch of people in public places, because all it does is make a women look like a whore, a slut and a cheap shameless peice of trash that her parents didnt teach her the right way when she was a kid about manners. These breastfeeding womens lib mothers who demand rights to publicly breastfeed, dont really give a **** about the babys needs due to starvation, all they care about is themselves to push it in our faces as a decent society to see if we can socielly accept a indecent provocative behaviour

36. Saskboy | 30-Nov-06 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Sean, you seem to think that women had MORE freedom and respect when they were forced to stay home, and be ashamed of their bodies. You’re not offering us any reason why it’s preferable for society to be “upperclass” when to you it means letting babies go hungry in public, women forced to wear certain clothing, and people being offended at life’s natural processes.

    “A womens boobs are a sexual body part just like a penis and a Vagina for the simple fact that there are bodily fluids that come out of that, plus boobs on a women tends to throwoff a sexual tendency to males which are driven into staring, feeling uncompfortable and sometimes even turnedoff by it”

    Don’t you hear yourself? How does a boob become sexual BECAUSE it leaks a fluid? You DO know the definition of sex right? There’s a difference between respecting someone else’s feelings, and bending over backwards to accommodate fuddy-duddies stuck in the early 20th Century. The 1960s was 40 years ago, get over it, it was the last generation. There’s no way in God’s Green earth that you’re going to put women back onto a pedestal, (so that you can look up their dress).

37. rose | 30-Nov-06 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Mentioning your poor grammar is not an ad hominem attack, it is merely pointing out that when you are arguing about something like CLASS, poor spelling and grammar does not add to the strength of your argument. How are we to perceive what class really is when we are reading a statement by someone obviously not educated past grade four? I think I had better writing skills in grade two. Now, if your arguments were well-articulated, logical and even remotely sensible, THEN I might actually stop and think about what you are saying instead of assuming you are mentally retarded and dismissing you at “ULTRA RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE”.

    Now, when I state that it seems you are likely mentally challenged from brain damage caused by too much bacteria in your baby formula, perhaps that being the reason for your dopey sentence structure, THATs an ad hominem attack. Get it right. To add to that, it appears you didn’t inherit any of your mother’s or father’s “doctor and lawyer” genes. Someone pooped in your gene pool…..maybe one of those trashy public breastfeeders.

    I am curious, as are others. What gives you the idea that a big bloated lactating breast is sexual? Can’t you just look the other way if it offends you? And why are women allowed to bare their breasts here but not their pubic areas if it is so awful? In Ontario, this has been allowed to for like, ten years or something. If I am not mistaken, the crime rate is lower than in the US, so obviously society hasn’t gone to hell (our children are not all gay either after legalizing gay marriage). Why do you feel the need to control other people’s behaviour when it doesn’t directly affect you? I mean, except for the fact that I would personally like to squirt you with boob juice doesn’t mean every lactating mother would. And if they aren’t offending you with biologicals, then why can’t you look away and pretend there is no lactating breast there?

    As for accusing me of being low-class and trashy and slutty (thats a new one for me!), if it means my right to breastfeed whereever I please is intact, then bring it on! I do lack shame……life is a lot better for it. Women spend too much time feeling ashamed for things that are beyond their control. And feeding babies is one of them. I also lack class. Partly because I don’t believe in your definition of class. I am poor but highly educated. Soon, I will have a PhD. I could intellectually crush you (normally I am not this arrogant but look who I am talking to). Do I CARE which spoon stirs my tea or which is used for dessert? Nope. That is a skill that serves absolutely NO purpose in life. I have developed life skills and respect for other people-something money can’t buy (and thats obvious in your case). You turn your nose down at people without as much wealth as you. That says a lot about how much class YOU have. A classy man would never refer to a women as a dirty whore or a slut, especially a mother giving sustenance to her child. You are so classely bereft that it boggles my mind how you can even argue about it.

    You seem bent on controlling the actions of others and pushing your rules and ideological beliefs on them. Its not only radical feminists that breastfeed in public. Many are stay-at-home moms who want the best for their children. Maybe you could show more class by not being turned on by their boobs and calling them dirty whores. Maybe even look the other way. ok? ok? ok?!!??? ok!!!1!!!????? Sorry, this post has words with mroe than three syllables. I am sure you learned how to use a dikshunary in your grade four class. ok????!!!!!!

38. M@ | 30-Nov-06 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a question for Saskboy. Is there automatic censoring in the comments? Or is Sean self-censoring in order to demonstrate the proper amount of high class?

    I’d hate to think he was putting out the f-bombs and s-bombs just to start trouble and hurt our standards and values.

39. Ashley | 30-Nov-06 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Sean, if you are going to argue here, use your own words. The more times you repeat a phrase the more I think someone forced you to label yourself and others this way. Repeating phrases does not help prove your point. You keep using the word “class” but you have never defined it. Are you not aware that the meaning of the word changed between 1920 and now? I’m willing to bet that you couldn’t even adequately define the term in the context you are using it.

    For someone who claims to be so classy, rich, and educated, you should know how to spell. There is no way that you made it through high school, much less any recognized post secondary institution with such atrocious spelling and grammar. Why don’t you explain to us what makes YOU “classy”. Your parents are not you, but you seem to define yourself by them. I’m willing to bet that you have probably never worked a well paying job in your life, yet you still consider yourself to be socially above anyone who isn’t “rich”.

    Perhaps it is time for you to catch up to society, Sean, and redefine your terms.

40. Locusta emersonia | 30-Nov-06 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Just a thought: Sean’s parents may have been so busy keeping up appearances with the Jones’es that they were a little lax in Sean’s home-schooling/tutoring…

    Sean, you are a raving wingnut, and you have said nothing new except for the fact that you think noses, mouths and eyes are sexual organs because “fluid comes out of them.” That’s just so wrong on so many levels. Your ideas of women and where women fall in your class of society is completely idiotic. Please, stop insulting women further with your sexist and unscientific blather.

    I cannot believe you have a newsletter and are in a leadership role in any sort of church, even some wacky, classy, exclusive, rich, holy roller sect hidden away in the farthest reaches of Chamberpot, Canada or wherever you are from.

41. Saskboy | 30-Nov-06 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    “A classy man would never refer to a women as a dirty whore or a slut, especially a mother giving sustenance to her child. You are so classely bereft that it boggles my mind how you can even argue about it.”

    Rose, I thought we agreed we’d be nice to Sean since he’s taking the time to explain to us what it means to be classy. Next, I hope he’ll tell us why we want to be classy, because it must benefit us in a tangible real way. What’s the point of being classy other than to be “upperclass”? What’s the benefit and definition of “upperclass”? Are people’s class defined by their actions, or by their parents’ money and mannerisms?

42. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    ok first off Ashley ok!!! the term “classy” means that a person is well mannered, well etiquette, dresses nice in expensive Armani suits or a women who dresses expensively and conservatively in a nice business outfit like a blouse and black slacks that have pin stripes on them with a matching Jacket. A person who is classy lives in a gated community, driving a expensive BMW, living in a one million dollor home, eats at the finest restaurants, eats expensive cavier, goes to country clubs. A classy person goes to opera’s, puts there sons or daughters through either military school or Catholic school, a classy female stricly wears highheels and dresses. To also define “classy” for a female, a female with class doesnt use birth control, a female with class doesnt believe in abortions or have abortions, a classy female doesnt breastfeed out in public or condone breastfeeding in public. Real classy women dont have kids outside of marraiges, real classy women dont publicly dress half naked to expose themselves for just any guy to touch all over them, a real classy women should have more self esteem then to expose her boobs in public to try and get attention or the wrong kind of attention. Having class means keeping your elbows off the table, doing less cussing, having class shows that you have respect for yourself and many people will look up to you as a sign of respect. A real classy person doesnt live in a middle to lowerclass neighborhood such as ghetto’s and Government housing programs such as section aid, a real class married women with kids quits her job to be a stay at home housewife while the husbund is at work. For you to ask me this Ashley “Are you not aware that the meaning of the word changed between 1920 and now? ” sounds really misguided and abcurred, the only groups of people now that hold the same high upperclass standards of the 1920s, are your highclass communitys such as doctors, lawyers, CEO’s, Real estate agents, developers, wine salesmen, and Religious ultra right wing conservative groups ok!!!. Look at how the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s were ok!!!, even lowerclass groups unlike the lowerclass groups you see of todays standards, were living up to the upperclass conservative standards of those era’s. Lowerclass groups of men even wore nice suits and ties even in the 1940s where as todays lowerclass groups are dressing in toreup jeans and tshirts and dressing slutty, women back then who were in the lowerclass group range even dressed so conservatively in nice dress as what you see today in the upperclass groups of todays society like your doctors and lawyers. See Ashley…you have it all backwards, see the meaning of the word “class” hasnt changed since the 1920s era, its people who changed by de-regulating there standards by lowering it and lowering there values, to where society sees it as a normal thing of the newer generation who growup in these types of standards of today. People like you Ashley and Saskboy are indoctrinating our class and and values the wrong way to a newer generation who is growing of in a freesociety that doesnt set limits to bad indecent behaviour such as breastfeeding in public. todays society is being miseducated by people like you Saskboy which is why this generation is getting more and more screwedup each year. —Hypothedically speaking— that is, its like squeezing toothpaste right out of a tube right…well once you squeeze that toothpaste, its very very hard to cram it all back into the tube once its out. Well thats what our standards of society is nowadays, its hard to get the newer generation to understand that breastfeeding in public is not only shameful, embarrasing, discraceful, but also down right lowclass. Back in the 1940s era women had alot more shame then they do nowadays then to breastfeed there kids right out in public without getting stoned and labled as a whore and a slut. Women held a high power of class and decency which made women very respectable in the 1940s unlike now, women have no shame because society condones a bad habit and also society is trying so hard to make people understand other womens shame and feeling by publicly embarrasing and humiliating themselves to breastfeed in public. Society is becoming more and more wacky each year the more people dont set limits to indecentcy in our society and the more they condone bad habits that goes outside of good manners, class and decency. Thats how liberalism works, liberalism and womens lib, wanna try everything in there power to destroy America’s good conservative values, these are a hateful, evil group of people that have destroyed the tradition of women since the early 1970s when America’s society became too weak minded to give women way to much rights and not have a tonge to speak out against it or have the balls to say something.

43. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Saskboy…listenup ok!!! a classy man will resort to calling a women a slut or a whore if she wants to act like a slut by allowing so many guys touching up on her, a classy man will call a women a slut or a whore if she is out exposing her boobs in public purposly to use breastfeeding as a front. When a women breastfeeds her child openly in public where her boobs show Saskboy, of coarse people will look down at the nose of her and see her as either a whore or a slut because of the fact shes to damn stupid to go where its PRIVATE to do her bodily functions elsewhere, were noone cant see. This is how ignorant you are Saskboy, you want women to feel less shameful and to go out and do whatever they want with there breast like showing it off. I got News for you Saskboy, there are some people who see this inappropriate bad manner behaviour such as breastfeeding openly in public as ****ing discraceul, embarrasing, lowclass, and very provocative trust me. A women who wants to feed her child has so many options to do it in PRIVATE like either a car, a bathroom or inside a home where noone cant see. To breastfeed a child in public is no different then burping in public, farting in public, defacating in public, urinating in public, having elbows on the table at a public restaurant and walking around nude in public. There all bad habits that we cannot just ignore and look at it as a social norm, to allow breastfeeding in public socially from a ****edup freesociety will soon or a later socially allow to walk into a restaurant nude or walk into a restaurant burping with so many customers around, thats how logical progression works Saskboy, if you are smart, then maybe you should stop and think where all this is coming from. Locusta….i never said noses, mouth and eyes were sexual organs so you can stop putting words in my mouth,….i said that breast are a sexual body part on a women, a penis is a sexual organ, a vagina is a sexual organ, maybe a breast isnt a sexual organ, but a breast on a women is as sexual and tempting as a penis or a vagina which should be coveredup when going out in public for the sake of shame and embarrasments. When i go to a public building wether if its a store, doesnt necessarly have to be a upscale inviroment or nothing like that, i dont accept to see a women breastfeeding her child out on the opening where i can see it along with everyone else, because it affects me, its disturbing and offends me as well. I dont accept to see some womens boobs hanging out while she’s breastfeeding her child in the super market because that is defanatly a eyesore and very unsanitary. Any women with SHAME, CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND CLASS oughta know better then to breastfeed there kids out in the opening where everyone can see. When i go to take a pee even if i cant find someplace where its PRIVATE such as a bathroom. i will hold onto it and waite till i get home due to the fact i like my PRIVACY and dont accept other to see me displaying my bodily functions, anyone with class and shame should understand that. These stupid manhating feminist who demand rights to breastfeed in public are whining and complaining that “oh i wish people can come to grips and understand our shame and that we should beable to breastfeed anywhere without feeling ashame”, thats like me saying ” oh i wish people can understand my shame when i wanna go to take a pee or a s**t anywhere , even if its in public without feeling a shame or feeling like i will be chastised”, Thats how stupid liberals logics are

44. Saskboy | 30-Nov-06 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    M@, there’s no censor feature in my blog, so Sean is self censoring, which I appreciate because I may have classy people reading my blog on the Internet who would faint if they saw a real swear. I usually don’t swear, either online or in person, so I have nothing against Sean using the *****ing asterisks.

45. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    when women wanna breastfeed in public, they are basically publicly humiliating themselves out there, a society should stop condoning this type of stuff and have enough balls and guts to standup and say “no”

46. Ashley | 30-Nov-06 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Sean, to define someone by how much money they spend its pretty sad. According to your definition of class, no one can be classy unless they spend the majority of their money on “image” things, such as clothes and fancy cars instead of on things that really matter, like the needs of their children. With that as your definition, I’m quite happy you wouldn’t define me as classy. Your definition of classy is exactly the same as my definition of “self centered”. Speaking of which, didn’t I ask you to define classy in your own terms? BMW’s and dress clothes are not a definition of “class”, although you may see them as characteristics of class. So I ask you again, define class in your own terms.

    “when women wanna breastfeed in public, they are basically publicly humiliating themselves”

    Isn’t humiliation an individual trait? Aren’t you saying that YOU THINK that they should feel humiliated? After all, if they were humiliating themselves, they wouldn’t do it.

    Saskboy, it’s fairly obvious this Sean person is just looking for attention. Perhaps we should all stop listening. After all, he doesn’t even know the meaning of the words he is using (see his definition of class).

47. M@ | 30-Nov-06 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Hey, that’s cool. I was just curious.

    Thanks, Sean, for keeping it classy around here. I’ve noticed a marked change in the level of discourse since you started posting in this thread.

48. Saskboy | 30-Nov-06 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Ashley, it’s starting to look that way.

    “This is how ignorant you are Saskboy, you want women to feel less shameful and to go out and do whatever they want with there breast like showing it off. I got News for you Saskboy, there are some people who see this inappropriate bad manner behaviour such as breastfeeding openly in public as ****ing discraceul, embarrasing, lowclass, and very provocative trust me.”

    Yes I want women to feel less shame about their bodies, and men should feel less too. Shame isn’t good for people, and people should only feel it when they do something that hurts someone else, not something that they can’t easily prevent. Do you want to hand out fines if someone farts in public next? How about a ticket if you’re caught blowing your nose?

    I just have to know what your take on smoking in public is, if you’re so aghast at a baby being fed, your head must totally explode if you see someone smoking in public where they poison people’s lungs around them.

49. Ashley | 30-Nov-06 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Saskboy - as per the 1920’s era, i’m willing to bet Sean thinks smoking is classy. After all, what is more upper class than destroying your body along with your family and children?

    Smoking was another thing that women couldn’t do publicly in the 1920’s. Which is good according to Sean, right? After all, women are destroying the world, and men are superior simply because they are men.

    I’m sure Sean also supports abusing women who DONT live up to his standard of “class” because you are either a classy woman or a whore, while men can be classy, middle class, or low class. After all, as long as women behave, society should be peachy keen.

50. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    yw M@…people in this chatroom have no clue or idea what manners and class is, to breastfeed your child and not feel ashamed or embarrased about it means you are lost and are uncivilized. When you have no shame and feel a sense of embarrasment for doing bad habits in public like breastfeeding in public, you will always be looked down at the nose of others while you are labled as a whore, a slut and a peice of trash while people just talk behind your back and gawk at you no matter where you go. Once you carry a reputation of being a slut..it follows you for the rest of your life and it will never change the minds of others. Real classy individuals do not breastfeed there kids in public im sorry, thats just down right cheap and trashy

51. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    ummm Ashley…smoking is classy, especially if its a fine expensive $13.00 Cuban Cigar, all walks of life can smoke, but smoking doesnt make you less classy. Smoking will lessson your health, but that doesnt mean i would support a law to bann smoking in all public places. I support everyones Godgiven red, white and blue rights to smoke anywhere, this is a freecountry and if someone wants to lightup a cigarrette..so be it, its not hurting me

52. M@ | 30-Nov-06 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Your case is well-made, Sean. Your manners are truly an inspiration to us all. I hope all civilization receives and follows your prescriptions. We would all truly be better off.

53. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    breastfeeding in public in all 50 states should be illegal which i strongly 100% support that legislation

54. Locusta emersonia | 30-Nov-06 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Well, there you have it. Sean is an American: “breastfeeding in public in all 50 states should be illegal which i strongly 100% support that legislation”

    Also, Sean must feel real classy lighting up his $13 ILLEGAL Cuban cigar.

    Sean, Newsflash: This is Canada. A place where women have rights, even the right to walk across the street with no shirt on if she feels like it. That’s just the way it is.

55. Ashley | 30-Nov-06 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    LMAO @ Sean

    “I support everyones Godgiven red, white and blue rights to smoke anywhere, this is a freecountry and if someone wants to lightup a cigarrette..so be it, its not hurting me”

    second hand smoke is likely to give you cancer. breast feeding is not going to do you any harm. So in response i say:

    I suppose everyones God given right to breastfeed anywhere. This is a free country, and if someone wants to feed their child, so be it. It’s not hurting me.

56. Saskboy | 30-Nov-06 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Ashley, don’t go putting logical conclusions based on Sean’s own words to him. That’s just unfair to use his own logic against him, it’s not classy to tell a man when he’s wrong and making a fool of himself in public. Sean, your words are downright shameful, and I’ve been feeling shame reading them - yet you don’t feel shame for your words do you?

    It’s my fault that I feel shame and pity for you, because you obviously don’t feel those things for yourself, so in a way you’re not any different from a breast feeding woman in public, because you’re making a spectacle out of yourself in an unclassy, and shameful way.

57. M@ | 30-Nov-06 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Talk about shame. All you guys are just lowclass people who can spell and would display disgusting sexy breasts in public. You should all smoke cigarrettes and read “Classy People Monthly” and be upper class like Sean and me. And that’s the ****ing truth.

    I don’t know why this is so difficult for you all. Sean has stated the correct position, quite clearly, and, I believe, on more than one occasion. Maybe you’re just not ultra-conservative enough, making you lowclass.

    In other news, this is the best comment thread evar.

58. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    thanks M@says and Ashley…as far as smoking in public places…i strongly support that ok!!! second hand smoke does not hurt me one single bit, if liberals like you complain about second hand smoke, why werent liberals like you whining about second hand smoke back in the 1940s when doctors would smoke right in front of there patients when smoking was legal in all public places?? . Smoking in public doesnt offend me at all, people have a right to smoke whereever they go, even in public places because this is a freecountry, not communism. This is what you said Ashley “I suppose everyones God given right to breastfeed anywhere. This is a free country, and if someone wants to feed their child, so be it. It’s not hurting me.”
    well to me its hurting me Ashley ok!!!, it affects me when some women has her breast hanging out where i can see it among others in a buss or restaurant regardless, its disturbing, its offensive and down right embarrasing if it were my wife who would breastfeed her child in public. It would certainatly affect my reputation as being a classy decent person and plus it would make me look bad among other rich upscale people like me

59. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    if my wife was breastfeeding in public and i was with her, it would reflect on me to make others see me too as lowclass, indecent and trashy with no conservative values

60. sean | 30-Nov-06 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    yet you don’t feel shame for your words do you?
    ummm actually Saskboy, no i dont feel shame for my words since im expressing my real strong conservative oppinions on breastfeeding in public. breastfeeding is very lowclass, doesnt mean i have shame for saying that Saskboy??, no i dont think so, its the truth. This is what you said Ashley “I’m sure Sean also supports abusing women who DONT live up to his standard of “class” because you are either a classy woman or a whore, while men can be classy, middle class, or low class. After all, as long as women behave, society should be peachy keen.” i dont support abusing women, but if women cant hold there high standards of class like they should and used to, then women deserve to be verbaly abused, being verbaly stoned in society for opening up there breast to broadcast it to everyone. There are so many ways to conceal yourself while breastfeeding a child like either a blanket or a towel etc, but if you ask these women why they dont coverup, they will give you 20 different excuses why they dont coverup while wanting to breastfeed there kids in public. To watch a baby being breastfed in public while i’m eating in a restaurant is very unsanitary due to the fact that i see a baby sucking on tits, –hypothedically speaking–that would be like me at a burger joint watching an employee butcher a cows head right in front of me and to other customers while he’s making hamburgers out of it, or better yet it would be like a man slurping on his soup bowl without using a silverwear while everyone is gawking and watching how disturbing and offensive this guy presents himself in a upscale inviroment

61. Ashley | 30-Nov-06 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    And smoking is hurting me, Sean, in the same way breastfeeding is “hurting” you.

    In the 1940’s, we did not know that smoking was harmful to the body and we did not know that second hand smoke was harmful as well. THAT is why no one complained in the 1940’s. Check your facts before whining.

62. sean | 01-Dec-06 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Rose…this is what you said “A classy man would never refer to a women as a dirty whore or a slut, “…..”Maybe you could show more class by not being turned on by their boobs and calling them dirty whores. Maybe even look the other way. ok? ok? ok?!!??? ok!!!” Rose…a classy, sophisticated decent women would never breastfeed her child in public PERIOD ok!!!, and a women who wants to breastfeed her child should show more class by going somehwhere more PRIVATE like a bathroom, a car, or to just coverup ok!!!. It doesnt make a classyman less classy for calling a women a whore or a slut since she chooses to act like a slut or a whore to openly breastfeed her child in public for people to stare and gawk at her. Rose…how can we look the other way when a women is breastfeeding in public to expose her boobs purposely for EVERYONE to see ha??, you make no sense at all Rose. When someone brings there bad habits openly out where everyone can see, its pretty hard for people not to look being that its a distraction and a eyesore. Rose….if you dont want people looking at your breast when nursing your child, then go somewhere PRIVATE HELLO!!!!, ummm Rose…havent you heard of the word PRIVACY??? Rose…just so you know, people wont look at a womens boobs if she chooses to breastfeed her child somewhere where theres noone around like in a bathroom, car or house. Thats like saying Rose –hyothedically speaking— “we should turn the other way if a man is defacating or urinating in public places and restaurants”, Rose….when a women exposes her sexual obects or a man exposes his sexual objects like his penises, people will look regardless what you think wether you like it or not. Exposing breast is a sex object that is offensive, disturbing, indecent and lowclass especially when you purposly go out of your way to bring it out in the opening where everyone can see just so you can purposly push it in there faces to either piss them off or arouse them

63. sean | 01-Dec-06 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    breastfeeding in public is down right tacky and discraceful, i dont care what you or anyone else wants to think, its lowclass and unsanitary when you bring it to restaurants where everyone is eating. If i were president of the United states, breastfeeding would be outlawed in all public places even outside, accept in bathrooms, cars and in the privacy of your home

64. Saskboy | 01-Dec-06 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    What if you can see the woman through the window of the car though, or if the baby drips milk on her shirt? Does she have to stay in the washroom until it dries, or get her car windows tinted before feeding?

65. Saskboy | 01-Dec-06 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    “Exposing breast is a sex object that is offensive, disturbing, indecent and lowclass especially when you purposly go out of your way to bring it out in the opening where everyone can see just so you can purposly push it in there faces to either piss them off or arouse them”

    After all, that’s why women want to breastfeed in public. They want to arouse men who aren’t their husbands. And Sean knowns that’s why because that’s what he learned from… well, someone who knows that’s why they do it.

    I know I find breasts disturbing. They are are just sitting there. Taunting men. Why, just the thought of them taunting me, disturbs me. Why would a highclass woman want to degrade herself by letting someone be disturbed by her mammary glands?

66. Rosie | 02-Dec-06 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Actually, I don’t care if people look at my boobs. In fact I quite like them and think its a shame that more people can’t see the glorious supple spheres that they are. I could go further that I am doing humankind a disservice by not baring my breasts ALL the time. But I won’t. Because to me, a boob is like an elbow. Part of my body that serves a function, could possibly be seen as an attractive trait, but really no big deal.

    So, if people are offended, then why do they stare? If it such an eyesore, then why would they look? Its their problem, not mine. They have voluntary muscle control in their necks and can easily look away. I don’t need privacy. And if this glorious country the united states of “you are only free if you do what we say” doesn’t like it, then they can stay right where they are. There are enough anal retentives here already.

    Sean. you say my logic is messed up? You think smoking is okay when it kills millions of people every year, but breastfeeding in public isn’t becuase it offends you? UNless I start eating loads of toxins and shoot laser rays out of my nipples, no one will be killed by my breast feeding (although that would be a great talent for my glorious breasts).

    Sean, I feel silly even addressing your assinine logic, but I just can’t help it. Maybe its the same kind of reaction as yours towards breastfeeding. You don’t want to stare because its so gross and shameful, but at the same time, its REALLY turning you on. I stand with Ashley in my low-classedness. I’d rather be low-class than a village idiot! At least there are better men down here! Ones who can spell. And appreciate glorious breasts for what they are: part of a glorious woman.

67. M@ | 02-Dec-06 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Look, people, it’s obvious that this false posturing for public breastfeeding is just an evil agenda that’s advanced just to make trouble for classy people. I mean, look at classy fully-clothed women like this:

    http://fabsugar.com/63316

    Just look at that dress and high heels. You can tell she lives in a gated community.

    And you’ll see how they’re so much more upperclass than lowclass women like this:

    http://www.momsinmind.com.sg/discreetbf.html

    Note: that last link has ACTUAL PICTURES OF BREASTFEEDING! Do NOT click it unless you are ready to see EXPLICIT DEPICTIONS of LOWCLASS WOMEN!

    If you’re not sure whether you should click that second link, have a conservative Catholic priest look at it first. Just in case.

68. sean | 02-Dec-06 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    this is what you asked me Saskboy ” What if you can see the woman through the window of the car though, or if the baby drips milk on her shirt? Does she have to stay in the washroom until it dries, or get her car windows tinted before feeding?”….well in a situation like this Saskboy when a women is nursing a kid in the privacy of her car and i happen to see a kid dripping milk, i wouldnt really react to it as much as if she were to do it out in the opening in front of everyone in a public place such as a restaurant, bus , a park, a theme park, shopping mall, train, airplane, grocery store or outside in either a store parking lot of a park bench for that matter. A women breastfeeding in a car is her private domain the way i see it, and it wouldnt be my business since she takes her private bodily functions to a car, as you asked a question about that “should she stay in a washroom until the milkd drys or have her windows tinted”. Well wether or not she gets milk drippings on her shirt while breastfeeding in private in her car, i personally wouldnt care since she took the time enough to nurse her child in private away from everyone where it wouldnt be in the way of others. Also —hypothedically speaking—in a situation like that, it wouldnt bother me or offend me one single bit if she had class and decency to take it in private like her car if some people can see it, but still, inside a car where some people can see a mother nursing her child is still less offensive, less disturbing since like i said, thats her private domain. I would have to say though that having her windows tinted to be really really discreet would also help too, to increase her privacy, i mean a women breastfeeding a child in her car with un-tinted windows is nothing wrong as if a women breastfed her child in a Apartment with her doors wide open since it too is in the privacy of her home where its not gonna be in the way, but closing her doors would help too. As long as a women breastfeeds her child where its private like a car away from where there are people, and wether or not her car windows are tinted…its not bothering me since i have no business to tell her she cant breastfeed in private, its not like its in the way

69. sean | 02-Dec-06 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    well from what you asked Saskboy “Why would a highclass woman want to degrade herself by letting someone be disturbed by her mammary glands?”….well if a highclass women or lets just say a so-called highclass women –hypothedically speaking—didnt want to degrade herself by letting someone be disturbed by her mamery glands she would at least coverup to have enough shame and decency then to broadcast it in front of everyone to get 10-15 minutes of fame

70. sean | 02-Dec-06 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    I am very very sick of how liberals ***** and ***** about the Delta airlines company escorting that women off the plane for breastfeeding her child, these liberals have no criticle thoughts. Coming from liberals and sheeps this is all you hear from there out landish mouths “oh i will never fly Delta again”….”oh i would love to sue Delta” i think this is pure bull****. Delta Airlines should not be blamed for, if they wanna blame someone, blame the stewerdess for cripe sake, for crying out loud the stewerdess was just doing her job to either have the women breastfeed the child in a bathroom or breastfeed him with a towel over him descretionatly where noone can see. Since she didnt choose either option, she would get escorted off the plane for refusing to go by airline rules, i am so so happy that she got thrown out of the plane because there should be a message to all airline companys that breastfeeding a child in a airliner is unacceptable and indecent. Any women with shame, class and decency oughta know that

71. M@ | 02-Dec-06 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Okay, hypothetical situation here. What if the woman were breastfeeding in public, but in a gated community? If she were upperclass enough to be in the gated community, presumably it would be okay? And the only people who could see her would be similarly uppserclass people so maybe the would be able to control their emotions in a sophisticated way.

    Just thinking. This is such a fascinating perspective we’re discussing here.

72. Saskboy | 02-Dec-06 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    “these liberals have no criticle thoughts”

    I don’t think you’re saying what you mean. Critical thoughts, does not mean ‘contrary thoughts’. Critical thinking involves thinking for yourself, and examining why you feel that way. Saying you feel a certain way because you’re “upperclass”, or “ultraconservative” isn’t critical thought, it’s evidence you’ve been brainwashed.

73. sean | 02-Dec-06 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Rosie…this is what you said or asked “Sean. you say my logic is messed up? You think smoking is okay when it kills millions of people every year, but breastfeeding in public isn’t becuase it offends you? UNless I start eating loads of toxins and shoot laser rays out of my nipples, no one will be killed by my breast feeding (although that would be a great talent for my glorious breasts). ”
    Rosie….i dont think smoking is ok, at least not for the health, but if someone wants to smoke, so be it, this is a Godgiven freecountry, not communism ok!!!, if someone wants to lightup a cigarette, thats there business, people have been smoking openly in public places, buses, trains, restaurants, and even Doctors would lightup a cigarette in front of there patients while operating on them since the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s, but society never said **** about that now did they?. Al Gore can sit there and **** and ***** about “how smoking can affect your health and we should bann smoking in all public places” well most democrats who are the biggest hyprocrits ever, and are out growing marajuana or tabacoo in there fields such as Al gore, and i cant think of a more weed smoker then Al Gore. See Rose…its not about how second hand smoke can kill you now is it…its about how you wanna infringe on the rights of others who smoke, its about taking away our rights to smoke because thats how liberals are, liberals wanna take away the rights of smoking not because its bad for the health, but to raise funds and money all for themselves like most democrats do, greedy and selfish. The sheeps with no criticle thi